I think even some of the v6 compatible routers are now shipping on v7 only
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On Wed, Jun 22, 2022, 9:35 AM Colin Stanners <cstann...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I feel like RouterOS V7 is the crux of the "ship first test later"
> attitude that MikroTik sometimes shows.
>
> The RB4011 semi-freezes were a rare problem (bad for people who riskily
> used them at tower sites, hopefully no one did that...). Forum posts
> suggest that those issues were fixed through software updates.
> The CCR2004 random reboots were a bigger issue due to their more core
> place in infrastructure. Forum posts suggest that those problems have been
> reduced through software updates but still exist. Given that CCR2116 and
> CCR2216 share similar Annapurna Labs CPUs, their stability is in question.
>
> But those cases pale in comparison to the many V7 issues "OSPF is just
> decoration"  "BGP? Who needs that working?"  etc. These would be somewhat
> acceptable on non-shipping software, but V7 is required on most of the
> newer routers.
>
> On Wed, Jun 22, 2022 at 10:58 AM Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Once v7 gets to a point where it's not so problematic that 2116 will be
>> great.  I'd rather stick with older stuff/v6 than have customers
>> complaining about mid day reboots.
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 22, 2022 at 9:14 AM Steven Kenney via AF <af@af.afmug.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks.  I didn't even know that model existed!  Pretty cool.  We just
>>> need a small form factor for some of our towers. Pretty sure my guy checked
>>> a few models that were all not in stock.  I'll keep that model in mind
>>> though!
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jun 21, 2022 at 7:46 AM Dennis Burgess <dmburg...@linktechs.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Depends on what you need, you may need to modify what you need to what
>>>> you can get 😊  Just a FYI.  We have quite a few people who used to
>>>> buy 4011s now buying 2116s etc, just cause we have stock.  Keep in mind
>>>> that larger is ok, just smaller is not.  😊
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *[image: LTI-Full_175px]*
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *Dennis Burgess, Mikrotik Certified Trainer MTCNA, MTCRE, MTCWE,
>>>> MTCTCE, MTCINE, MTCSE, HE IPv6 Sage, Cambium ePMP Certified *
>>>>
>>>> Author of "Learn RouterOS- Second Editionā€
>>>>
>>>> *Link Technologies, Inc* -- Mikrotik & WISP Support Services
>>>>
>>>> *Office*: 314-735-0270  Website: http://www.linktechs.net
>>>>
>>>> Create Wireless Coverage’s with www.towercoverage.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of * Steven Kenney via
>>>> AF
>>>> *Sent:* Monday, June 20, 2022 7:40 AM
>>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
>>>> *Cc:* Steven Kenney <st...@wavedirect.org>
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] What is the supply chain situation from a WISP
>>>> perspective?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> We called - you couldn't get anything until Sept that we needed.  But
>>>> thanks for checking in Dennis!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Jun 17, 2022 at 7:13 AM Dennis Burgess <dmburg...@linktechs.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> We have CRS 48Ps, a number of 2216s, and a number of products… Here is
>>>> stuff in stock.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> https://www.linktechs.net/productcart/pc/showsearchresults.asp?idcategory=0&priceFrom=0&priceUntil=&withstock=-1&SKU=&IDBrand=1&keyWord=&customfield1=0&SearchValues1=0&customfield=0&SearchValues=0&resultCnt=125&order=2&Submit=
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *[image: LTI-Full_175px]*
>>>>
>>>> *Dennis Burgess*
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Author of "Learn RouterOS- Second Editionā€
>>>>
>>>> *Link Technologies, Inc* -- Mikrotik & WISP Support Services
>>>>
>>>> *Office*: 314-735-0270  Website: http://www.linktechs.net
>>>>
>>>> Create Wireless Coverage’s with www.towercoverage.com
>>>>
>>>> Need MikroTik Cloud Management: https://cloud.linktechs.net
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Steven Kenney via
>>>> AF
>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, June 16, 2022 4:21 PM
>>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
>>>> *Cc:* Steven Kenney <st...@wavedirect.org>
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] What is the supply chain situation from a WISP
>>>> perspective?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> No mikrotiks to be found..
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Jun 16, 2022 at 3:36 PM Jeff Broadwick - Lists <
>>>> jeffl...@att.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Kinda depends on what you are looking for and you timeline.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> There’s quite a bit of Cambium in stock in the channel.  Lots of some
>>>> UBNT stock and none of a lot of SKUs.  Tik is mostly backordered on the
>>>> most popular switches and routers.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Some manufacturers like Adtran and Tarana work allocation to try and
>>>> keep people moving.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> If you plan ahead, it’s not that bad mostly.
>>>>
>>>> Jeff Broadwick
>>>>
>>>> CTIconnect
>>>>
>>>> 312-205-2519 Office
>>>>
>>>> 574-220-7826 Cell
>>>>
>>>> jbroadw...@cticonnect.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Jun 16, 2022, at 2:22 PM, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> 
>>>>
>>>> Everything is a dumpster fire.  Everything.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Jun 16, 2022 at 2:11 PM Forrest Christian (List Account) <
>>>> li...@packetflux.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> So the sales at packetflux have been very much more volatile this
>>>> year.    Like we'll go fairly long stretches with few sales, then a blast
>>>> of orders will come through.   On average we're doing pretty much as
>>>> expected but on the short term it swings from "how are we ever going to
>>>> make all of this stuff" to "I hope the orders pick back up since we don't
>>>> have any more room to store stock".   Like I said, we're doing fine on
>>>> average, it's just that I'm curious what is driving this odd ordering
>>>> pattern
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I have talked to a couple of customers and it seems like this might be
>>>> a side effect of the way WISPs order stuff nowadays, and also shortages
>>>> from other (radio) vendors.   For instance, I would expect that if a WISP
>>>> can't get radios for their towers they also aren't going to be ordering PoE
>>>> injectors for the nonexistent radios.   I also know that a lot of people
>>>> have moved to "order several months at once" instead of "order as you go".
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> So I'm curious what everyone is seeing or doing from the WISP viewpoint.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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