It's a calculator...so I don't know how I'm wrong... The number is the default for the SuperCharger cost (which is 26c/kwh) which was the question - not home charging.
On Fri, May 27, 2022 at 11:49 AM Darin Steffl <darin.ste...@mnwifi.com> wrote: > That calculation is wrong based on current data in MN at least. I ran the > numbers and 300 miles out of 358 mile range on M3 long range is roughly > 68kwh out of an 82kwh battery. In MN at 0.33/kwh, the cost to add 300 miles > of range is about $22.67 > > Compare to a camry that maybe averages 32 MPG at $4.30 a gallon and the > cost to go the same 300 miles is $40.31 so I guess even with higher charger > costs than normal, it's still cheaper than gas. Comparing to an suv or > truck and it's even more savings. > > The best part is that tesla is more efficient than most/all gas vehicles > but also faster than many of them too. > > The cost at home for me to add 300 miles of range is about $8.25 > > > On Fri, May 27, 2022, 10:04 AM Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> > wrote: > >> ~300 miles for $13 >> https://evadept.com/calc/tesla-supercharger-charging-cost-calculator >> >> On Fri, May 27, 2022 at 10:43 AM Nate Burke <n...@blastcomm.com> wrote: >> >>> Loving this thread '*L*earning *E*verthing *N*eeded about *T*eslas' >>> >>> Seems lots of people here have Teslas. How does billing at the >>> Supercharger actually work? I read through the website, and the >>> back-of-the-napkin math I ran seemed that charging at a supercharger was >>> about the equivalent of a tank of gas. ~$40-$50 (I have a small car). Is >>> that accurate? >>> On 5/27/2022 9:04 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: >>> >>> Tap the Climate Controls settings screen > turn on Preconditioning in >>> settings > select 'Schedule' to set a daily time when you want to be ready >>> to drive. >>> >>> There's also a great API to control your car from anywhere (as long as >>> it has connectivity). >>> >>> On Fri, May 27, 2022 at 9:44 AM Chuck McCown via AF <af@af.afmug.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Can you schedule the climate control to turn on? I like that my Leaf >>>> will start the AC or heat a half hour before my normal drive times. >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>> On May 26, 2022, at 8:26 PM, Robert <i...@avantwireless.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> Tesla recommends plugging in. You can set how full it will charge >>>> to with the phone app, but the LFP batteries you are getting will let you >>>> leave that at 100% without impacting performance of the batteries. You >>>> will like the phone app it has a lot of features. I figured out that you >>>> can create an email alias and have both your and your wifes phone use that >>>> to log in with full features instead of having a superior and inferior >>>> account. >>>> >>>> On 5/26/22 2:31 PM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote: >>>> >>>> With the Leaf, I have always plugged it in when I got to work, or in >>>> one case where I had a long commute, both at work and at home. Never had a >>>> battery problem. Except during really cold weather but all Leafs have that >>>> problem. >>>> >>>> Looking forward to the heated battery. Not understanding if I should >>>> not charge the Tesla every day as my daily commute is about 14 miles RT. I >>>> like having it topped up every day so that I can go wherever I want. But >>>> if that is hard on the battery I will have to change the way I charge. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *From:* Darin Steffl >>>> *Sent:* Thursday, May 26, 2022 3:11 PM >>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group >>>> *Cc:* Chuck McCown >>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] LENT >>>> >>>> If you're not looking at the exterior with a microscope, you'll be VERY >>>> happy with your M3 over the Leaf. It's faster, more range, bigger, and more >>>> fun. The infotainment is awesome too. >>>> >>>> Let us know your review of the car once you get it. Their charger >>>> network is the largest in the world too so road trips are quite easy even >>>> with lower range. You have the smaller battery in that model so charge time >>>> will be under 20 minutes to add 70-80% of the total capacity on each >>>> charge. You should not charge to 100% unless you absolutely need that range >>>> to get to the next charger. I recommend only charging to 80% on road trips >>>> to keep the charge times down. Like any battery, the charge rate decreases >>>> the closer you get to 100%. It drops pretty quick after 80% so trips can be >>>> made faster if you charge from 10% to 80% than if you charge from 40% to >>>> 100% for example. >>>> >>>> For your daily charging at home, they recommend no more than 90% full >>>> to maintain the range of your battery. If you charge more than that, plan >>>> on driving the car within a couple hours so your car doesn't sit charged >>>> above 90% for an extended period of time. >>>> >>>> But if you ordered the RWD small battery version, I think you get the >>>> LFP battery which means you can charge to 100% with no concerns about >>>> hurting the battery. The link below will help you determine if you have the >>>> LFP battery. If you do, you can charge to 100% at home but you do not need >>>> to do so on road trips using superchargers because it takes too long to hit >>>> 100%. Just charge until you have enough range to reach your next stop or >>>> destination. Also download Plugshare and you can find Level 2 chargers all >>>> around the country that aren't listed in the Tesla map. Many are free so >>>> you can find spots like restaurants or hotels that offer free charging. >>>> >>>> >>>> https://www.tesla.com/ownersmanual/model3/en_jo/GUID-7FE78D73-0A17-47C4-B21B-54F641FFAEF4.html >>>> >>>> On Thu, May 26, 2022 at 2:43 PM Chuck McCown via AF <af@af.afmug.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I am not terribly anal for fit and finish issues. A car is a tool, >>>>> not a trophy. It is an expense, not an investment. A tesla is an >>>>> extravagance, not a need. But I sure hate buying gasoline, so since my >>>>> Leaf lease is expiring I needed to get something. I am buying this and I >>>>> bought an airplane once. Only two times I have bought something I didn’t >>>>> really need. >>>>> >>>>> *From:* Bill Prince >>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, May 26, 2022 11:42 AM >>>>> *To:* af@af.afmug.com >>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] LENT >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Tesla's in general do not have a stellar reputation for "reliability" >>>>> or build quality. That said, the M3 scores high, followed relatively >>>>> closely by the MY. The two share 80% of their components. >>>>> >>>>> If you drill down on the reliability complaints, it is often to do >>>>> with niggling little things like door handles and retracting rear view >>>>> mirrors and the like. The MX is horrible for the X-wing doors. There are >>>>> also on-and-off issues with build quality (except for the ones made in >>>>> China). They have been getting steadily better, and the really new ones >>>>> I've seen look almost perfect WRT fit and finish. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> bp >>>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> >>>>> >>>>> On 5/26/2022 10:11 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Is this coming from a Tesla owner? >>>>> >>>>> Tesla owners I know don’t say anything bad about the car or company. >>>>> >>>>> *From:* Ryan Ray >>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, May 26, 2022 10:45 AM >>>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group >>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] LENT >>>>> >>>>> Are you not concerned at all regarding build quality or longevity with >>>>> a company that hasn't been forthright about existing issues, poor warranty >>>>> experiences, and don't seem to generally care about their customer service >>>>> or customer in general? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, May 25, 2022 at 5:47 PM Chuck McCown via AF <af@af.afmug.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I am starting to have second thoughts, maybe try to buy a used one... >>>>>> I have some time to cancel this order... I am a cheap bugger. This >>>>>> might >>>>>> be the last car I ever buy, so maybe I do want the new one? >>>>>> >>>>>> *From:* Robert >>>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 25, 2022 6:28 PM >>>>>> *To:* af@af.afmug.com >>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] LENT >>>>>> >>>>>> We will be coming on the end of our Model 3 lease in September, >>>>>> which, after so many delivery date changes ( one of which would have been >>>>>> three months ago! ) corresponds to the delivery date of the Model Y. >>>>>> Getting into and out of the 3 was just too much for these knees, which >>>>>> are >>>>>> now being replaced. We have really enjoyed all of the Model 3 features >>>>>> and I think the full autopilot is just another Musk Troll that fanboys >>>>>> are >>>>>> willing to throw money at. I am seriously tempted to flip it, if the >>>>>> prices for used stay this high. $20K over our price would be hard to >>>>>> refuse, with the likely reduction in lead times in the next year or so as >>>>>> the factories ramp up. >>>>>> >>>>>> On 5/25/22 5:04 PM, Tim Hardy wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Glad that shit is over. You’ll be happy with your Tesla, our Model Y >>>>>> is is 2 years old today and its been a great experience. The wife’s car >>>>>> and >>>>>> I still have the gas guzzling 911! >>>>>> >>>>>> Peace out. >>>>>> >>>>>> On May 25, 2022, at 6:35 PM, Chuck McCown via AF <af@af.afmug.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Model 3 They predict Sept to December delivery. $46K 375 mile >>>>>> range I think. I really like the cruise control. It does lane keeping >>>>>> so >>>>>> I really don’t see a use for an autopilot. >>>>>> >>>>>> *From:* Cassidy B. Larson >>>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 25, 2022 4:31 PM >>>>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group >>>>>> *Cc:* Chuck McCown >>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] LENT >>>>>> >>>>>> Which Tesla did you go for? What are they saying for lead time? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On May 25, 2022, at 4:28 PM, Chuck McCown via AF <af@af.afmug.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Sorry, I started it. >>>>>> >>>>>> Sometimes it is amusing to watch the Jaime and Steve show. Ken and >>>>>> Lewis used to join in too but they couldn’t take it anymore. But we do >>>>>> have the OT in the subject line so you can filter this kind of crap out. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> But yeah, I think we have all vented now, and trolled the guys that >>>>>> need trolling. Steve and Jaime got to make their hyperbolic comments. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> So it is now dead until Lent is over. Next year’s lent. >>>>>> >>>>>> BTW everyone, I ordered a Tesla. My 4th Leaf lease is coming due in >>>>>> July so I took the leap. Did a test drive today and really loved it. 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