Sergiu tells me there's a new Medusa in the pipeline with 26 chains instead of 14 chains, and supporting up to 100mhz channel sizes, and supporting the 5.8ghz to 7ghz.  Current SM's only support up to 5.9ghz, so it'll be an SM swap to take advantage of the higher channels.....and there's supposed to be a SAS for opportunistic access to that band.

This is all a couple years down the road, but it's looking like there's at least one more upgrade cycle possible.


On 3/26/2021 1:55 PM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:
They were doing the polarization angular twist thing that will give you lots of channels per carrier but the antennas are weird, huge and fussy.  And you have to have a different weird huge antenna for each chain.
*From:* Adam Moffett
*Sent:* Friday, March 26, 2021 10:44 AM
*To:* [email protected]
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Wireless future

That could happen, but I can't make bets on it.

On 3/26/2021 10:36 AM, Bill Prince wrote:

There's the alternative of a modulation technique/method that no one has figured out yet. Quark spin or something.

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On 3/25/2021 7:54 PM, Adam Moffett wrote:

That's what I'm seeing as well I guess.  Can't get more SNR, can't get more hertz.

The only path to improvement I see is really big beam forming array with even more MU-MIMO chains.  Cost will go up accordingly I think.

The alternate path would be millimeter wave with all the obvious caveats. Not trying to be a doomsayer, but I'm seeing a wall in front of me.

On 3/25/2021 6:30 PM, Mathew Howard wrote:
It's seems to me that it would require a pretty radical change for fixed wireless to progress a whole lot beyond what it's currently capable of. Maybe 6ghz being opened up will allow for using much wider channels, and keep things interesting, but I don't see things like MU-MIMO being more than an incremental improvement, like practically everything over the past decade or so. 60ghz has the potential to be a true competitor to fiber, but that's going to require a completely different network design than what we're used to. On Thu, Mar 25, 2021 at 11:39 AM Steve Jones <[email protected]> wrote:

    In 10 years it will be trending to niche market for home use.
    We will have fiber to the farm so it is what it is.
    On Thu, Mar 25, 2021, 11:26 AM jerry bickle
    <[email protected]> wrote:

        Best to watch The Simpson’s for a glimpse into the future. 
        I’m pretty sure there’s time travel involved.

        I think RF Design hasn’t evolved much.  Simple N=1 reuse
        and cell splits are the method that’s been used
        successfully for decades. Going smaller isn’t innovative. 
        MiMo is a big leap however.  Broader channels are the only
        way to deliver huge bandwidth.  Going higher and higher QAM
        doesn’t work well for mobile handsets and the diminishing
        returns and crazy timing necessary to maintain a high QAM
        other than a lab are not practical.  Small cells are UGLY. 
        They’re also close to the people and EMR is a concern to
        many. The FCC has guidelines that I do trust but we’re not
        dealing with sites that are 100’ tall and every 1/2 mile
        now. They’re on just about every street corner.  Most
        carriers are digging up the streets to bring fiber to each
        of these poles.  It’s an expensive deployment.  802.11ax is
        the best innovation I’ve seen and it is truly 5G more than
        anything else that’s out there.  8x8 and 12x12 MiMo and
        color coded streams for interference mitigation are a big
        difference maker.

        Jerry Bickle

        President

        RF Design Services, LLC

        Cell: 405.650.3366

        Fax: 405.330.1310

        Email: [email protected]

        WEB: www.rfdesignservices.com
        <http://www.rfdesignservices.com/>

        *From: *AF <[email protected]> on behalf of Adam
        Moffett <[email protected]>
        *Reply-To: *AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]>
        *Date: *Thursday, March 25, 2021 at 9:59 AM
        *To: *AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]>
        *Subject: *[AFMUG] Wireless future

        Any opinions on where wireless technology will evolve in
        the next 5 years?

        There's a compound annual growth in demand, and trying to
        think about

        how manufacturers will meet that going forward.  I'm
        assuming we can't

        count on bigger channels or more spectrum.  So what then? 
        More MU-MIMO

        chains?  Or is it going to have to be street level small
        cells (60ghz

        etc)?  Or something else?

        We're investing heavily in fiber, as I know a lot of you
        are, but the

        wireless customers aren't going to go away.

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