Just start doing fiber.  

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> On Mar 25, 2021, at 8:54 PM, Adam Moffett <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> 
> That's what I'm seeing as well I guess.  Can't get more SNR, can't get more 
> hertz.
> 
> The only path to improvement I see is really big beam forming array with even 
> more MU-MIMO chains.  Cost will go up accordingly I think.
> 
> The alternate path would be millimeter wave with all the obvious caveats. Not 
> trying to be a doomsayer, but I'm seeing a wall in front of me.
> 
> 
> 
> On 3/25/2021 6:30 PM, Mathew Howard wrote:
>> It's seems to me that it would require a pretty radical change for fixed 
>> wireless to progress a whole lot beyond what it's currently capable of. 
>> Maybe 6ghz being opened up will allow for using much wider channels, and 
>> keep things interesting, but I don't see things like MU-MIMO being more than 
>> an incremental improvement, like practically everything over the past decade 
>> or so. 
>> 
>> 60ghz has the potential to be a true competitor to fiber, but that's going 
>> to require a completely different network design than what we're used to.
>> 
>> On Thu, Mar 25, 2021 at 11:39 AM Steve Jones <[email protected]> 
>> wrote:
>>> In 10 years it will be trending to niche market for home use. We will have 
>>> fiber to the farm so it is what it is. 
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Mar 25, 2021, 11:26 AM jerry bickle <[email protected]> 
>>> wrote:
>>>> Best to watch The Simpson’s for a glimpse into the future.  I’m pretty 
>>>> sure there’s time travel involved. 
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> I think RF Design hasn’t evolved much.  Simple N=1 reuse and cell splits 
>>>> are the method that’s been used successfully for decades.  Going smaller 
>>>> isn’t innovative.  MiMo is a big leap however.  Broader channels are the 
>>>> only way to deliver huge bandwidth.  Going higher and higher QAM doesn’t 
>>>> work well for mobile handsets and the diminishing returns and crazy timing 
>>>> necessary to maintain a high QAM other than a lab are not practical.  
>>>> Small cells are UGLY.  They’re also close to the people and EMR is a 
>>>> concern to many.  The FCC has guidelines that I do trust but we’re not 
>>>> dealing with sites that are 100’ tall and every 1/2 mile now.  They’re on 
>>>> just about every street corner.  Most carriers are digging up the streets 
>>>> to bring fiber to each of these poles.  It’s an expensive deployment.  
>>>> 802.11ax is the best innovation I’ve seen and it is truly 5G more than 
>>>> anything else that’s out there.  8x8 and 12x12 MiMo and color coded 
>>>> streams for interference mitigation are a big difference maker. 
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> Jerry Bickle
>>>> 
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>>>> From: AF <[email protected]> on behalf of Adam Moffett 
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>>>> Reply-To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]>
>>>> Date: Thursday, March 25, 2021 at 9:59 AM
>>>> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]>
>>>> Subject: [AFMUG] Wireless future
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> Any opinions on where wireless technology will evolve in the next 5 years?
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> There's a compound annual growth in demand, and trying to think about
>>>> 
>>>> how manufacturers will meet that going forward.  I'm assuming we can't
>>>> 
>>>> count on bigger channels or more spectrum.  So what then?  More MU-MIMO
>>>> 
>>>> chains?  Or is it going to have to be street level small cells (60ghz
>>>> 
>>>> etc)?  Or something else?
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> We're investing heavily in fiber, as I know a lot of you are, but the
>>>> 
>>>> wireless customers aren't going to go away.
>>>> 
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