Wireless has a long run in the future, just tech inst there..

Hopefully 5 years down the road we’ll have radios with the capacity of doing AI 
multiband carrier aggregation, been opportunistic of the actual need of the end 
user to pull x amount of data though x amount of spectrum… UNII, 60 GHZ, 
Unlicensed 40 GHZ… etc


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From: AF <[email protected]> on behalf of Adam Moffett 
<[email protected]>
Date: Friday, March 26, 2021 at 8:06 AM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wireless future

We are doing lots of fiber.  :)

It takes time though.


On 3/26/2021 1:34 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:
Just start doing fiber.
Sent from my iPhone


On Mar 25, 2021, at 8:54 PM, Adam Moffett 
<[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]> wrote:


That's what I'm seeing as well I guess.  Can't get more SNR, can't get more 
hertz.

The only path to improvement I see is really big beam forming array with even 
more MU-MIMO chains.  Cost will go up accordingly I think.

The alternate path would be millimeter wave with all the obvious caveats. Not 
trying to be a doomsayer, but I'm seeing a wall in front of me.


On 3/25/2021 6:30 PM, Mathew Howard wrote:
It's seems to me that it would require a pretty radical change for fixed 
wireless to progress a whole lot beyond what it's currently capable of. Maybe 
6ghz being opened up will allow for using much wider channels, and keep things 
interesting, but I don't see things like MU-MIMO being more than an incremental 
improvement, like practically everything over the past decade or so.

60ghz has the potential to be a true competitor to fiber, but that's going to 
require a completely different network design than what we're used to.

On Thu, Mar 25, 2021 at 11:39 AM Steve Jones 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
In 10 years it will be trending to niche market for home use. We will have 
fiber to the farm so it is what it is.

On Thu, Mar 25, 2021, 11:26 AM jerry bickle 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Best to watch The Simpson’s for a glimpse into the future.  I’m pretty sure 
there’s time travel involved.

I think RF Design hasn’t evolved much.  Simple N=1 reuse and cell splits are 
the method that’s been used successfully for decades.  Going smaller isn’t 
innovative.  MiMo is a big leap however.  Broader channels are the only way to 
deliver huge bandwidth.  Going higher and higher QAM doesn’t work well for 
mobile handsets and the diminishing returns and crazy timing necessary to 
maintain a high QAM other than a lab are not practical.  Small cells are UGLY.  
They’re also close to the people and EMR is a concern to many.  The FCC has 
guidelines that I do trust but we’re not dealing with sites that are 100’ tall 
and every 1/2 mile now.  They’re on just about every street corner.  Most 
carriers are digging up the streets to bring fiber to each of these poles.  
It’s an expensive deployment.  802.11ax is the best innovation I’ve seen and it 
is truly 5G more than anything else that’s out there.  8x8 and 12x12 MiMo and 
color coded streams for interference mitigation are a big difference maker.

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From: AF <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> on behalf of 
Adam Moffett <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Reply-To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Date: Thursday, March 25, 2021 at 9:59 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Subject: [AFMUG] Wireless future

Any opinions on where wireless technology will evolve in the next 5 years?

There's a compound annual growth in demand, and trying to think about
how manufacturers will meet that going forward.  I'm assuming we can't
count on bigger channels or more spectrum.  So what then?  More MU-MIMO
chains?  Or is it going to have to be street level small cells (60ghz
etc)?  Or something else?

We're investing heavily in fiber, as I know a lot of you are, but the
wireless customers aren't going to go away.



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