I'm certain that last paragraph is the most accurate prediction of the
future that I have ever seen

On Thu, Mar 25, 2021 at 10:14 PM Steve Jones <[email protected]>
wrote:

> That wall is nothing a horizontal drill cant get through.
>
> Wireless will be gadget centric. It wont be a medium of last mile, it will
> be the end user medium. Realistically, for any notable distance we max our
> industry capacity at 1.2 to 2 reliable gbps now, that wont increase by any
> notable amount.
>
> Eventually somebody will figure out a low latency high capacity ground
> transfer, then we just tie a copper chain to our nuts that drags around
> behind us from our pant leg and keeps the musk neural implant synced with
> the cloud
>
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 25, 2021, 9:55 PM Adam Moffett <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> That's what I'm seeing as well I guess.  Can't get more SNR, can't get
>> more hertz.
>>
>> The only path to improvement I see is really big beam forming array with
>> even more MU-MIMO chains.  Cost will go up accordingly I think.
>>
>> The alternate path would be millimeter wave with all the obvious caveats.
>> Not trying to be a doomsayer, but I'm seeing a wall in front of me.
>>
>>
>> On 3/25/2021 6:30 PM, Mathew Howard wrote:
>>
>> It's seems to me that it would require a pretty radical change for fixed
>> wireless to progress a whole lot beyond what it's currently capable of.
>> Maybe 6ghz being opened up will allow for using much wider channels, and
>> keep things interesting, but I don't see things like MU-MIMO being more
>> than an incremental improvement, like practically everything over the past
>> decade or so.
>>
>> 60ghz has the potential to be a true competitor to fiber, but that's
>> going to require a completely different network design than what we're used
>> to.
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 25, 2021 at 11:39 AM Steve Jones <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> In 10 years it will be trending to niche market for home use. We will
>>> have fiber to the farm so it is what it is.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Mar 25, 2021, 11:26 AM jerry bickle <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Best to watch The Simpson’s for a glimpse into the future.  I’m pretty
>>>> sure there’s time travel involved.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I think RF Design hasn’t evolved much.  Simple N=1 reuse and cell
>>>> splits are the method that’s been used successfully for decades.  Going
>>>> smaller isn’t innovative.  MiMo is a big leap however.  Broader channels
>>>> are the only way to deliver huge bandwidth.  Going higher and higher QAM
>>>> doesn’t work well for mobile handsets and the diminishing returns and crazy
>>>> timing necessary to maintain a high QAM other than a lab are not
>>>> practical.  Small cells are UGLY.  They’re also close to the people and EMR
>>>> is a concern to many.  The FCC has guidelines that I do trust but we’re not
>>>> dealing with sites that are 100’ tall and every 1/2 mile now.  They’re on
>>>> just about every street corner.  Most carriers are digging up the streets
>>>> to bring fiber to each of these poles.  It’s an expensive deployment.
>>>> 802.11ax is the best innovation I’ve seen and it is truly 5G more than
>>>> anything else that’s out there.  8x8 and 12x12 MiMo and color coded streams
>>>> for interference mitigation are a big difference maker.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Jerry Bickle
>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From: *AF <[email protected]> on behalf of Adam Moffett <
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>>>> *Reply-To: *AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]>
>>>> *Date: *Thursday, March 25, 2021 at 9:59 AM
>>>> *To: *AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]>
>>>> *Subject: *[AFMUG] Wireless future
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Any opinions on where wireless technology will evolve in the next 5
>>>> years?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> There's a compound annual growth in demand, and trying to think about
>>>>
>>>> how manufacturers will meet that going forward.  I'm assuming we can't
>>>>
>>>> count on bigger channels or more spectrum.  So what then?  More MU-MIMO
>>>>
>>>> chains?  Or is it going to have to be street level small cells (60ghz
>>>>
>>>> etc)?  Or something else?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> We're investing heavily in fiber, as I know a lot of you are, but the
>>>>
>>>> wireless customers aren't going to go away.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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