Solar will never be what people dream. It's not reliable like wind. It is what it is.
Eventually the ecoterrorists will want to ban geothermal because we are stealing the earth's heat and poking too many holes in the ground. Something like doc brown's garbage reactor is where it will be. I've been reading about the enzymes that break plastic down to its base components. I think when we get to a point where we understand enough about breaking molecular bonds and full recycling of most goods we will be able to harvest that energy. But then the landfill industry will lobby to shut it down too. Can you imagine, you just dump banana peels and old tennis shoes in your hopper and take output trays of base elements to the recycler. It will be awesome for disposing of "mishaps" right now you have to take the body to a pig farm and then there are still teeth to deal with, and the tarp you wrapped the "mishap" in has genetic material all over it. You never know if any got loose in the trunk, and it doesnt always all burn in the burn barrel, just a big risk mess. With the recycler 500p you just shove mouthy karen in the hopper and poof, shes a tray of elements and she actually was useful for a change and powered the xbox for a week On Fri, Oct 23, 2020, 12:48 PM <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote: > Nice. And it will continue to get cheaper with advancements in the cell > technology. > Now, if someone could come up with a super cheap and efficient way to > store it... > > *From:* Jaime Solorza > *Sent:* Friday, October 23, 2020 11:39 AM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Ot: politics: news/pundits in the middle > > > https://www.popularmechanics.com/science/a34372005/solar-cheapest-energy-ever/ > > On Fri, Oct 23, 2020, 11:30 AM Mike Meluskey <m...@broadband.vi> wrote: > >> >> Molten Salt Reactor: >> >> https://www.forbes.com/sites/llewellynking/2020/10/13/new-design-molten-salt-reactor-is-cheaper-to-run-consumes-nuclear-waste/amp/ >> >> On 23 Oct 2020, at 12:48, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: >> >> Niagra falls gets turned off and on for the tourists. Perhaps they could >> do Yellowstone the same way. >> >> *From:* Adam Moffett >> *Sent:* Friday, October 23, 2020 10:35 AM >> *To:* af@af.afmug.com >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Ot: politics: news/pundits in the middle >> >> >> We could turn Yellowstone park into a massive geothermal facility that >> could power the whole country, but maybe we'd rather have a park. Tough >> call (in all seriousness). Allegedly extracting energy from the volcano >> could reduce the risk of eruption too. >> Nuclear fission gets a lot of bad press for no good reason. We'd rather >> burn coal and gas and release the radioactive isotypes from those fuels I >> guess. >> >> >> >> On 10/23/2020 12:23 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: >> >> I guess that the low pressure area behind the blades is significant >> enough to rupture the lungs of bats. >> Some folks call them a visual blight. Personally I like watching them. >> They are relaxing to watch. >> But if we want clean power, nuclear, hydro and geothermal are still the >> only games in town. Even solar panels have a toxic waste stream and a less >> than zero carbon foot print. >> >> *From:* Adam Moffett >> *Sent:* Friday, October 23, 2020 10:15 AM >> *To:* af@af.afmug.com >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Ot: politics: news/pundits in the middle >> >> >> Maybe the windmill blades should be vellum on a bamboo frame, and the >> pole should be a wooden pylon buried in the dirt. >> >> >> On 10/23/2020 12:07 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: >> >> He was right about the birds. Doesn’t kill all of them but it is a very >> large problem, especially for migratory water foul. >> The anti windmill crowd says the amount of CO2 released by the concrete, >> steel and petroleum that it takes to create a windmill will never balance >> out in the amount of CO2 it saves from the atmosphere. >> >> Could be true. His problem is that he hears fragments of factoids and >> delivers them in a way that it sounds like he is making crap up on the >> fly. >> >> OK, sorry for breaking lent... we have been all pretty well behaved. >> >> *From:* Jaime Solorza >> *Sent:* Friday, October 23, 2020 9:02 AM >> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Ot: politics: news/pundits in the middle >> >> "I know more about wind than you do," Mr Trump replied, before going on >> to say windmills are extremely expensive, “kill all the birds” and “the >> fumes coming up, if you’re a believer in carbon emission … for these >> massive windmills is more than anything we’re talking about with natural >> gas which is very clean”. >> Enough said. >> >> On Thu, Oct 22, 2020, 9:24 PM Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> The moderator tonite is a known leftist trashcan. 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