Title: Re: [AFMUG] servers
Chuck,
For the big stuff (mail server and virtual hosts), i use dell R620's I get off of ebay. Knock on wood the run very well. 1U units, not very deep. DNS i just run on some ITX boards, I think they are A6-5200 or in that ballpark. DNS doesn't need much. I run 5 DNS servers in total. 3 that are resolvers for our customers. 1 main server for all our hosts and 1 backup server in the cloud.
email is always fun. I went with the linuxmagic guys years ago. Haven't looked back. I think it is a nice balance of having a system onsite and them doing 99% of the maintenance.
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Saturday, September 26, 2020, 9:45:04 AM, you wrote:
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The problem with gmail is paying for each account. Unless we are doing it wrong. Something like $10/mo per account,
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On Sep 26, 2020, at 6:44 AM, Lewis Bergman <lewis.berg...@gmail.com> wrote:
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Anything DC is going to severely limit your choices. You need almost nothing for DNS and DHCP but email...useful email takes a decent machine nowadays for all the spam checking and header checks. I gave up doing email ages ago and went to gmail. Best decision I ever made. No need to spark a war, just a sideline comment.
As for reliability, Either Dell or HP I think are the best. Haven't done Dell in a while but when I did I was happy with them. They both make blade servers. I have been researching blade servers recently for a new project. HP has an 8 slot C3000 and a 16 slot C7000. Dell has the M1000e. The HP has a storage blade that holds 16 drives and can serve as DAS, ISCSI, fiber channel and about any other disk access you like. I think you can put 8 of those in. They both have chassis management so you can manage the blades from a central admin console on a hardware level. Dell is more tightly integrated with VMWare than HP from what I could tell but I don't know what that integration buys you.
Both are available on the refurb market.
This next bit may be incorrect but I don't think so from what I could tell:
No matter if you buy refurb or brand new blades appear to come out a generation behind their rack mounted brothers. For instance in HP I think the latest you can get in a blade is a Gen9 server while current rack units and desktop servers are at Gen 10. Gen 10 has a better iLO5 (Integrated Lights Out) than Gen 8 and 9 iLO4. I don't believe you can upgrade that iLO separately as it is built into the MB. Dell used to have their DRAC which does the same thing and it plugged into a special slot so was independant of the MB and could be upgraded but I don't know what they have now. I assume HP moved to the on MB way to save money so I am assuming they have both moved that way.
On Fri, Sep 25, 2020 at 8:09 PM <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
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I need to put in some servers. I want to go durable. Last a long time.
Thinking blade servers.
Email, DNS etc, Perhaps in the future DHCP. Other things an ISP uses.
Suggestions? I like the idea of hot swap etc. I realize VM and Hyper V, all kinds of virtualization makes life easy.
But irrespective, I want bare metal reliability.
Then perhaps NAS/SAN on top of it.
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