yeah that c2000 failure was a ripoff!!

On 9/25/20 8:06 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:

Rotating components like fans and hard drives are what fails.  And batteries, look out for RAID controllers with battery backed write cache.  Assuming you bought a used several generations old server off lease, by the time the battery dies, you probably can’t buy a replacement. Oh, and power supplies seem to fail.

So fanless is good, SSD is good.  I don’t know about latest generation, but traditionally the HP/Compaq DL series rackmount servers are built like tanks, and things like redundant hot swap fans can mitigate the problem with fans failing.  Be sure to stock a few spare fan modules and power supplies.

IMHO if you are looking for a rackmount server, 2U is more reliable than 1U.  Things like fans and power supplies and heatsinks are compromised to fit into the 1U height.  Components in a 2U chassis can be a lot more robust.

Most of the HP and Dell servers will be very deep, and will need to go in a cabinet or 4 post rack. There are solutions for mounting a deep server in a 2 post rack but they are ugly.  If you want regular rackmount, Supermicro has a few short depth chassis servers that can be mounted without a rail kit.  I haven’t had any failure problems with Supermicro except a couple with ATOM C2000 LPC clock failures after a couple years and that was Intel’s fault.  They aren’t the mechanical thing of beauty inside though that a DL380 is, the mechanical design is just good enough.

*From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Chuck McCown
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Like something that is not so long that I have to put in a cabinet.  Regular rack mount would be nice,

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    On Sep 25, 2020, at 8:33 PM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com
    <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote:

    Some windows, some Linux.  48vdc would be nice.  Not lots of hp.

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        On Sep 25, 2020, at 8:16 PM, Robert <i...@avantwireless.com
        <mailto:i...@avantwireless.com>> wrote:

         Unless you need a lot of HP, fanless, like atoms, driven off
        of a DC power supply. What OS?

        On 9/25/20 6:08 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>
        wrote:

            I need to put in some servers.  I want to go durable. 
            Last a long time.

            Thinking blade servers.

            Email, DNS etc,  Perhaps in the future DHCP.  Other things
            an ISP uses.

            Suggestions? I like the idea of hot swap etc.  I realize
            VM and Hyper V, all kinds of virtualization makes life easy.

            But irrespective, I want bare metal reliability.

            Then perhaps NAS/SAN on top of it.




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