The problem with gmail is paying for each account.   Unless we are doing it 
wrong.  Something like $10/mo per account,

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> On Sep 26, 2020, at 6:44 AM, Lewis Bergman <lewis.berg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> Anything DC is going to severely limit your choices. You need almost nothing 
> for DNS and DHCP but email...useful email takes a decent machine nowadays for 
> all the spam checking and header checks. I gave up doing email ages ago and 
> went to gmail. Best decision I ever made. No need to spark a war, just a 
> sideline comment.
> 
> As for reliability, Either Dell or HP I think are the best. Haven't done Dell 
> in a while but when I did I was happy with them.  They both make blade 
> servers. I have been researching blade servers recently for a new project. HP 
> has an 8 slot C3000 and a 16 slot C7000. Dell has the M1000e. The HP has a 
> storage blade that holds 16 drives and can serve as DAS, ISCSI, fiber channel 
> and about any other disk access you like. I think you can put 8 of those in. 
> They both have chassis management so you can manage the blades from a central 
> admin console on a hardware level. Dell is more tightly integrated with 
> VMWare than HP from what I could tell but I don't know what that integration 
> buys you.
> 
> Both are available on the refurb market. 
> This next bit may be incorrect but I don't think so from what I could tell:  
> No matter if you buy refurb or brand new blades appear to come out a 
> generation behind their rack mounted brothers. For instance in HP I think the 
> latest you can get in a blade is a Gen9 server while current rack units and 
> desktop servers are at Gen 10. Gen 10 has a better iLO5 (Integrated Lights 
> Out) than Gen 8 and 9 iLO4. I don't believe you can upgrade that iLO 
> separately as it is built into the MB. Dell used to have their DRAC which 
> does the same thing and it plugged into a special slot so was independant of 
> the MB and could be upgraded but I don't know what they have now. I assume HP 
> moved to the on MB way to save money so I am assuming they have both moved 
> that way.
> 
>> On Fri, Sep 25, 2020 at 8:09 PM <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>> I need to put in some servers.  I want to go durable.  Last a long time. 
>> Thinking blade servers.
>> Email, DNS etc,  Perhaps in the future DHCP.  Other things an ISP uses. 
>>  
>> Suggestions?  I like the idea of hot swap etc.  I realize VM and Hyper V, 
>> all kinds of virtualization makes life easy.
>> But irrespective, I want bare metal reliability.
>>  
>> Then perhaps NAS/SAN on top of it. 
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