Mu-mimo it is

On Sun, Sep 13, 2020, 8:03 PM Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:

> That must mean something different than I was thinking.  Like 64 time
> slices for different traffic, or dividing the 360 degrees into 64 antenna
> beams.
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> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Mike Hammett
> *Sent:* Sunday, September 13, 2020 8:11 PM
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> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cell signals.
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> Sprint\T-Mo has done 64x64.
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> *From: *"Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com>
> *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <af@af.afmug.com>
> *Sent: *Sunday, September 13, 2020 7:13:45 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Cell signals.
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> I still can’t wrap my head around how they get ∞x∞ MIMO and 1.21 gigawattsbits
> from 5 MHz of spectrum.  I understand MU-MIMO and beamsteering and all
> that, but when they start tossing around stuff like 8x8 MIMO I don’t see
> how you get that many orthogonal signals on the same frequency.
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> But for maximum spectral efficiency, I assume they use more than 1
> polarization, whether V&H or +45 & -45.
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> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Chuck McCown
> *Sent:* Sunday, September 13, 2020 6:54 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cell signals.
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> I have a passive antenna experiment in the works.  Rather than guess at
> the right slant, I think I will try V pol initially.
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> Sent from my iPhone
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> On Sep 13, 2020, at 4:12 PM, Matt Hoppes <
> mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote:
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> When GSM began they started using vertical polarization. But as the need
> for capacity arose antennas changed to slant 45 X polarization.
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> On Sep 13, 2020, at 5:51 PM, Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
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> V
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> On Sun, Sep 13, 2020, 3:48 PM Matt Hoppes <
> mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote:
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> Slant 45
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> > On Sep 13, 2020, at 4:51 PM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
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> > Are cell signals V pol?
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> > Sent from my iPhone
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