Sprint\T-Mo has done 64x64. 



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From: "Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com> 
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <af@af.afmug.com> 
Sent: Sunday, September 13, 2020 7:13:45 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cell signals. 



I still can’t wrap my head around how they get ∞x∞ MIMO and 1.21 giga watts 
bits from 5 MHz of spectrum. I understand MU-MIMO and beamsteering and all 
that, but when they start tossing around stuff like 8x8 MIMO I don’t see how 
you get that many orthogonal signals on the same frequency. 

But for maximum spectral efficiency, I assume they use more than 1 
polarization, whether V&H or +45 & -45. 



From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Chuck McCown 
Sent: Sunday, September 13, 2020 6:54 PM 
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com> 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cell signals. 

I have a passive antenna experiment in the works. Rather than guess at the 
right slant, I think I will try V pol initially. 

Sent from my iPhone 






On Sep 13, 2020, at 4:12 PM, Matt Hoppes < mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net > 
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When GSM began they started using vertical polarization. But as the need for 
capacity arose antennas changed to slant 45 X polarization. 




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On Sep 13, 2020, at 5:51 PM, Jaime Solorza < losguyswirel...@gmail.com > wrote: 
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V 



On Sun, Sep 13, 2020, 3:48 PM Matt Hoppes < mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net > 
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Slant 45 

> On Sep 13, 2020, at 4:51 PM, Chuck McCown < ch...@wbmfg.com > wrote: 
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> Are cell signals V pol? 
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> Sent from my iPhone 
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