Did Clear take out all your customers?  OpenRange?  What about
Verizon/AT&T/Sprint/Tmo and their 4G product?

Josh Luthman
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On Fri, Aug 14, 2020 at 10:46 AM Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:

> Good point.  Also I’m puzzled about reports that Starlink intends to apply
> for RDOF money.  Isn’t that for buildout not actual customers?  And the
> satellites fly over the entire earth, not a specific rural area.  I’m not
> understanding how they would even apply for RDOF.  Just by promising
> coverage in those areas?  I guess Hughesnet and Viasat got CAF money.
>
>
>
> The other thing that might save us is the marketing challenge.  Does
> Starlink intend to sell online?  And will it be a customer self-install, or
> will they need local installers.  Seems like key to their success will be
> marketing partnerships.  Not saying WISPs would be the answer, thinking
> more along the lines of sat TV companies or phone companies.  Some reports
> actually give an edge to Amazon in the LEO satellite Internet space because
> of Amazon’s ability to bundle with Prime.  Teslas were so sought-after they
> basically sold themselves, Musk didn’t really need local Tesla
> dealerships.  I’m not sure he’s ever had a venture where he needed good
> marketing and sales.
>
>
>
> Not sure how the average consumer, especially rural consumer, will deal
> with the term satellite Internet.  Ignoring the terrible reputation from
> Hughesnet, I’d say half my customers already call our antenna a
> “satellite”.  Plus when they say “we’ve got satellite” it means TV.
> Expensive TV they want to ditch for streaming.  Now ask them to understand
> the difference between geostationary and LEO, and brains will be exploding
> like the aliens in Mars Attacks.  The flashy speed numbers will attract
> some people, although many people don’t understand that latency is like
> golf, less is better.  People are also conditioned that when they hear
> “satellite”, the speed doesn’t matter, it’s the data cap that’ll get you.
>
>
>
> So it’s really had to predict how this will hit us.  Wipe us out and take
> all our customers?  Or free us from struggling to serve the people in mini
> forests on low ground by the creek?  A lot may depend on price.  And what
> early adopters think of it.  Most sales in our area are through
> word-of-mouth.  The Facebook moms will make or break you.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones
> *Sent:* Friday, August 14, 2020 9:22 AM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] starlink speed test results!
>
>
>
> My only real concern is loose state and federal funding eligibility. Not
> the buildout, but the monthly service cost. Our governor here offered the
> buildout dough on top of the caf buildout areas, more rules, same areas.
> With internet as a utility mindset, there is no telling how much money the
> suits will give out for service fees.
>
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 14, 2020, 9:13 AM Kurt Fankhauser <lists.wavel...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> I would suspect this alpha testing is only going to get better once they
> get the bugs worked out. I would not be shocked if we started seeing
> 100mbps speeds with sub 30ms pings as the normal. Hoping I am wrong but
> prepare for the worst. Hopefully they price that package somewhere around
> $200/month and I'll be fine. The other thing is how much is thunderstorms
> and clouds going to affect the quality of the Sat connections? Snow on the
> receiver? Hopefully its not near as reliable as fixed wireless.
>
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 13, 2020 at 8:52 PM Colin Stanners <cstann...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> It'll be a threat to NLOS fixed wireless, but the LOS services that can do
> 100-200mbit+  should be safe.
>
>
>
> Still a massive improvement over other satellite services.
>
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 13, 2020, 7:36 PM Tushar Patel, <tpa...@ecpi.com> wrote:
>
> If those results held up, this may not be a real threat to fixed wireless.
>
> Tushar
>
>
> > On Aug 13, 2020, at 7:19 PM, Robert <i...@avantwireless.com> wrote:
> >
> > You can listen to all the BS and disclaimers through the first 5
> minutes or just jump to 5 minutes in to find the results.  Well, for an
> unloaded net, this isn't going to spin any pinwheels...   I am amazed at
> the results being this weird...
> >
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dcan2c4gWSA
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