Pease size chunks are good right? That means I can get them cheap in the really rural area and may be less expensive in the metro area in the exact location I want to cover?
> On Jul 31, 2020, at 6:35 AM, Mark Radabaugh <m...@amplex.net> wrote: > > You can purchase C band spectrum, but it will be sold in PEA sized chunks. > Opening prices have been announced, auction starts in December I believe. > > Not sure of the short form date but if you are going to bid in it you may > want to form a group. Unfortunately some of the people you probably want to > talk with might be in the CBRS auction which can make things difficult with > the anti-collusion rules. > > Mark > >> On Jul 31, 2020, at 3:46 AM, Gino A. Villarini <g...@aeronetpr.com> wrote: >> >> NO, C-band is going directly to auction block, without any SAS or sharing. >> There are some discussions to bring more CBRS like spectrum under 3550. >> 3300-3550 IIRC >> >> Gino Villarini >> Founder/President >> @gvillarini >> t: 787.273.4143 Ext. 204 >> >> >> www.aeronetpr.com | Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, PR 00968 >> >> From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> on behalf of Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> >> Reply-To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com> >> Date: Thursday, July 30, 2020 at 11:37 PM >> To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' <af@af.afmug.com> >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Auction results so far >> >> They are repacking C-band to free up 3700-4000 “for 5G”. Does that mean not >> for us? >> >> From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser >> Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2020 9:48 PM >> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com> >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Auction results so far >> >> If the SAS ends up working out really well to protect incumbents can we >> expect more spectrum maybe the next 50-100mhz directly below where the new >> CBRS band is now? >> >> On Thu, Jul 30, 2020 at 10:38 AM Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> >> wrote: >>> >We are looking back into deploying our 900 Aps putting one on each tower >>> >with 120 deg sectors at 20Mhz wide and roll with it lol! >>> >>> That says a lot =( >>> >>> Josh Luthman >>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>> 1100 Wayne St >>> Suite 1337 >>> Troy, OH 45373 >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Jul 29, 2020 at 7:55 PM Dave <dmilho...@wletc.com> wrote: >>>> Mark, >>>> I had an interesting meeting with Cambium, federated and such to help us >>>> coordinate our channels and so far it been a bonus by getting all of my >>>> Aps to 30Mhz wide and shifting the channels so we all coexist >>>> My issue is whats going to happen in phase 2 >>>> I am sure Ill wake up and all my APs will be disabled or dropped Eirp >>>> We are looking back into deploying our 900 Aps putting one on each tower >>>> with 120 deg sectors at 20Mhz wide and roll with it lol! >>>> >>>> On 7/29/2020 12:40 PM, Mark Radabaugh wrote: >>>>> At this point it depends on what your SAS is doing. >>>>> >>>>> Federated (at last conversation) was trying to do some GAA coordination >>>>> but they were only looking at their own GAA assignments >>>>> >>>>> Google (at last conversation) was an expensive black box that says “YES” >>>>> to any request as long as it doesn’t impact an incumbent. >>>>> >>>>> I don’t know what the others are doing. >>>>> >>>>> Mark >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> On Jul 29, 2020, at 11:11 AM, Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Not yet. I guess that's still a wish list item. >>>>>> >>>>>> On 7/29/2020 11:09 AM, Steve Jones wrote: >>>>>>> Wait, the lower 100 only denys grants if it impala a pal or the elusive >>>>>>> incumbent? I thought SAS coordination was across the board in that CBRS >>>>>>> chunk? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Wed, Jul 29, 2020 at 10:06 AM Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> If you don’t have a PAL, you are GAA, anywhere in the 150 MHz. The >>>>>>>> only difference is that the upper 50 MHz is GAA only. If you request >>>>>>>> a frequency in 3650-3700 you would never get denied to protect a PAL >>>>>>>> operator. But there could be umpteen other GAA operators using that >>>>>>>> frequency, so I don’t think the SAS needs to consider things like >>>>>>>> frequency reuse because they just automatically approve the grant >>>>>>>> unless it would impact a PAL protection area or an incumbent. Also >>>>>>>> there can be a max of 7 PALs issued in a county, so there should be at >>>>>>>> least 30 MHz for GAA in the lower 100 MHz. Not a specific set of >>>>>>>> channels though. But again, there could be umpteen WISPs all trying >>>>>>>> to use that 30 MHz and I don’t think the SASes do anything to police >>>>>>>> or coordinate GAA. Even in the case where there is enough GAA >>>>>>>> spectrum in an area to accommodate everyone on separate frequencies, I >>>>>>>> don’t see how they would communicate this to the operators, since they >>>>>>>> either approve or deny grant requests, they don’t suggest gee why >>>>>>>> don’t you use this other frequency instead, it’s open. You have to do >>>>>>>> your own SA to determine that. And repeat regularly. Even if there >>>>>>>> was a mechanism in the protocols to request auto frequency assignment >>>>>>>> from the SAS, there’s more than one SAS. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> It’s a very complex system that doesn’t do much if everyone is GAA. >>>>>>>> Other than give us some more spectrum, and do away with LBT (which >>>>>>>> sucked). >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Steve Jones >>>>>>>> Sent:Wednesday, July 29, 2020 9:44 AM >>>>>>>> To:AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com> >>>>>>>> Subject:Re: [AFMUG] Auction results so far >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> there are only 50mhz gaa, im talking about the other 100 operation >>>>>>>> without pal >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Wed, Jul 29, 2020 at 8:54 AM Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> With or without PAL? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> If you’re GAA, I don’t think they care how you reuse or duplicate >>>>>>>>> frequencies between your own sectors or with adjacent GAA users. I >>>>>>>>> think you’re giving the SAS too much credit for policing or >>>>>>>>> coordinating frequency assignments among GAA users. As long as >>>>>>>>> you’re not stepping on an incumbent or a PAL protection area, I think >>>>>>>>> they’ll give you a grant for whatever frequency you want. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> PAL holders will probably need to work this out though. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> From:AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com>On Behalf Of Steve Jones >>>>>>>>> Sent:Wednesday, July 29, 2020 1:08 AM >>>>>>>>> To:AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com> >>>>>>>>> Subject:Re: [AFMUG] Auction results so far >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Is current SAS supporting SFG? if not, how will one reuse frequency >>>>>>>>> now? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 28, 2020 at 7:19 PM Mark Radabaugh <m...@amplex.net> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> There are several variants: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Single Frequency Groups (SFG) are multiple CBSD’s that all operate >>>>>>>>>> on the same frequency. If you are going WTF - of course the base >>>>>>>>>> station and the CPE’s are all a single frequency group - keep in >>>>>>>>>> mind that in the mobile world the handsets are not CBSD’s. For our >>>>>>>>>> purposes each BS and all of it’s CPE’s have to be in a single >>>>>>>>>> frequency group. This is also for frequency reuse - if you use >>>>>>>>>> channels A, B, C on your network and reuse them in some type of >>>>>>>>>> pattern you would designate all of the A’s in one SFG, B’s in >>>>>>>>>> another, etc. If a SFG has to change channels they all have to >>>>>>>>>> change together. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Coexistence groups would be systems where timing parameters match. >>>>>>>>>> Think multiple operators running LTE or a proprietary protocol on a >>>>>>>>>> common UL:DL ratio. Not all use cases want to use the same UL:DL >>>>>>>>>> ratio. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Mark >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 28, 2020, at 6:42 PM, Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> As far as the SAS is concerned, it's all irrelevant. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> They were talking about coexistence groups where a group of >>>>>>>>>>> operators could have overlapping assignments because the operators >>>>>>>>>>> are using some mechanism to coexist in the channels assigned. I >>>>>>>>>>> don't know if those made it to the end, nor what form they've taken. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> ----- >>>>>>>>>>> Mike Hammett >>>>>>>>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Midwest Internet Exchange >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> The Brothers WISP >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> From:"Matt Hoppes" <mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> >>>>>>>>>>> To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <af@af.afmug.com> >>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2020 5:11:04 PM >>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Auction results so far >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Not at all. If I am running the same standard as someone else and >>>>>>>>>>> the same split then I can synchronize with them and we aren’t going >>>>>>>>>>> to interfere even if we’re relatively close. If on the other hand >>>>>>>>>>> we are not running the same standards in the same split then we are >>>>>>>>>>> going to interfere with each other even if we are very far away >>>>>>>>>>> from each other. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 28, 2020, at 6:01 PM, Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> The standards and settings are irrelevant. Tx power - loss = >>>>>>>>>>>> receive power. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> ----- >>>>>>>>>>>> Mike Hammett >>>>>>>>>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Midwest Internet Exchange >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> The Brothers WISP >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> From:"Matt Hoppes" <mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> >>>>>>>>>>>> To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <af@af.afmug.com> >>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2020 4:55:27 PM >>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Auction results so far >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> How does the SASI sure there will be no interference? Since you >>>>>>>>>>>> can run so many different standards and settings? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 28, 2020, at 5:03 PM, Steve Jones >>>>>>>>>>>>> <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Yep, and anyone not operating in cbrs without SAS gets big dollar >>>>>>>>>>>>> reminders to stop >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 28, 2020, 3:59 PM Kurt Fankhauser >>>>>>>>>>>>> <lists.wavel...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Josh, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> You will have interference protection through the SAS so that >>>>>>>>>>>>>> someone just can't blindly fire up right on top of your channel >>>>>>>>>>>>>> right next to you. Every AP has to get a grant from SAS before >>>>>>>>>>>>>> it can transmit. Also if Demand says 15 there is no way to tell >>>>>>>>>>>>>> if that is 15 individual bidders or if 4-5 bidders are trying to >>>>>>>>>>>>>> bid on 4x10mhz channels each. We will know when the auction is >>>>>>>>>>>>>> over more info but while the auction is taking place everything >>>>>>>>>>>>>> is a secret. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 28, 2020 at 4:09 PM Josh Luthman >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well if you do licensed PTP links it seems you don't get any >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> kind of interference protection if someone else doesn't play by >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the rules and they don't get any punishment for doing so... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you think CBRS will give you interference free protection >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'd love to know you do because I don't feel that's going to be >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a game changer for hitting customers. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Josh Luthman >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Suite 1337 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 28, 2020 at 3:42 PM Steve Jones >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> drinking! They be purchased after the auction? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Divided over 10 years, it's a manageable number for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> interference free spectrum. What do you pay per year in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> interference related truck rolls, tech time and list >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> satisfaction? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 28, 2020, 12:06 PM Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Obviously the last round is public knowledge. After the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> auction is over, are the results of all rounds public >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> information? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ----- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mike Hammett >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Midwest Internet Exchange >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Brothers WISP >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From:"Mark Radabaugh" <m...@amplex.net> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <af@af.afmug.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2020 11:11:20 AM >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Auction results so far >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Correct - no way to tell who is bidding. The complete list >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of bidders is public knowledge: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.fcc.gov/document/auction-105-35-ghz-qualified-bidders >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Which counties those 271 bidders are bidding on is only known >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> by the FCC >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mark >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 28, 2020, at 12:03 PM, Josh Luthman >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I assume the 14 or 15 bidders is a closely guarded secret? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I can't begin to think who would be able to pay 30k around >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> here for that besides Verizon/AT&T/Sprint... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Josh Luthman >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Suite 1337 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 28, 2020 at 11:37 AM Mark Radabaugh >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <m...@amplex.net> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Note that the confidentiality and anti collusion rules >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> apply for anyone who filed the short form. Be very >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> careful that what you say in here does not violate the FCC >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rules. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Everything discussed so far is from the public information >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the FCC is releasing or from the auction public notice. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To read the results Josh posted: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The price does not include discounts - 75% of the posted >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> price if you qualified as being under 25M/year in revenue - >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so closer to 27k There is also a rural provider credit. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It reads: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In the initial round the price of one 10Mhz PAL was $21,000 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not counting any discounts you may have been eligible for. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There were 14 bids at that price, with only 7 lots >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> available. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In the second round the price of one PAL was $24,000 (less >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> discounts). There were 15 bids at that price, with only 7 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> available. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In the 5th round the price for one PAL went up to $33,000 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (less discounts) with demand down to 10 PAL’s. The price >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> went up for ALL 7 of the PAL’s. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The price will keep going up until the demand is equal to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 7. Once demand gets to 7 there is still a posted price >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> increase - but unless someone adds additional demand the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> price will stay at the previous start of round price. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The price/demand could sit at 7 for the next (insert >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> number) of rounds and then start going back up if another >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bidder decides they are priced out of one county and want >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to move to another county. Or if they are just playing >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> games. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Once a county is at or above a demand for 7 PAL’s the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> price won’t go down. If you get a PAL in a round and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> later decide you don’t want it, you are stuck buying it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unless someone else bids at the higher price. You can >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> change your demand to 0, saying you don’t want it anymore, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but unless someone else wants it you are stuck with it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just like a normal auction - once you are the winning >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bidder, you own it unless someone outbids you. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For bidders there are required activity levels that you >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have to meet. Essentially you have to bid 95% of your >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> initial deposit on each round. If you don’t bid that what >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you are allowed to bid in the next round goes down. The >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rule is basically to keep bidders from sandbagging - if you >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> haven’t been bidding and are just waiting to see what >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> others are going to do you will run out of eligibility >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pretty quickly. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mark >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 28, 2020, at 10:24 AM, Cassidy B. Larson >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <c...@infowest.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It’s up to 37k per 10mhz block. Demand is going down >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> though! lol >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 28, 2020, at 08:22, Josh Luthman >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No idea how to read this: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <image.png> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Josh Luthman >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Suite 1337 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 28, 2020 at 10:20 AM Kurt Fankhauser >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <lists.wavel...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Josh, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is your county up to 30k per 10mhz block? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 28, 2020 at 10:08 AM Josh Baird >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <joshba...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Assuming it's too late at this point to get into the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> initial rounds that are taking place this week? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Haven't really been keeping up with this. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 28, 2020 at 9:54 AM Adam Moffett >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I also lost track of the whole auction situation. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Will there be another round later? Seems like nobody >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bid on some of the counties around us, and I wish I'd >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thrown in a minimum bid at this point. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/28/2020 12:40 AM, Steve Jones wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Our starting bid was relatively inexpensive over the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ten year term for our 5 counties and 4 pals each. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Almost had the boss talked into giving it serious >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> consideration so i could pull the trigger on the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> auction. then the world ended and that got back >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> burnered. byt the time we came back to it there was >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> no time to learn enough about the auction >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jul 27, 2020 at 9:54 PM Dave >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <dmilho...@wletc.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My guess is none... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Im sooo sick of the BS games the FCC and 'BIG BOYZ' >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Are playing. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So funny how they say "Sure anyone can get a pal" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> FCC should have shoved a big FU to all WISPs and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just let us die. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When I first saw the pricing on our county and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> surrounding countys for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bid I knew there was no chance. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Let the lawsuits FLY... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/27/2020 5:51 PM, Seth Mattinen wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > On 7/27/20 15:42, Mark Radabaugh wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> https://auctiondata.fcc.gov/public/projects/auction105 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > 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