Well that may be the law in the US and some states. Not sure about Canada though. It makes sense to me though. They can't stop people from installing stuff to the campers. But they can be pricks about every other thing.
Another funny fact is people are lining up for me to install them but this guy has blocked it all. So he looks bad .. really bad to a lot of people. From: "Steve Jones" <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> To: "af" <af@af.afmug.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2020 3:28:19 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wifi Campsite Conundrum He cant stop you from servicing your equipment, campites are considered to be abodes and have the same property rights as a rented apartment, or owned home (for the most part) you cannot alter his campsite at all, everything would have to be attached to the camper. He can try to no trespass you and each of your employees, but its likely the police and states attorney will word their communication in such a way he opts not to do that. I assume there is some OTARD stuff you could claim. a quick communication to any of your customers that would be impacted may poke his nose, but campsites are a premium right now because many have permanently closed down due to the covid lockdowns. There is always the option for everything he owns to spontaneously combust On Tue, May 26, 2020 at 1:59 PM Steven Kenney < [ mailto:st...@wavedirect.org | st...@wavedirect.org ] > wrote: TLDR Campsite started charging for wifi and has been without our consent for a while. Advertises new wifi system. We demand more money, he says he'll lock our company out from doing fixed wireless installs inside the camp. I had come up with a solution so everyone was happy and the guy turned down free internet and a high speed bridge put in for free! -- Steven Kenney Network Operations Manager WaveDirect Telecommunications [ http://www.wavedirect.net/ | http://www.wavedirect.net ] (519)737-WAVE (9283) From: "Steven Kenney" < [ mailto:st...@wavedirect.org | st...@wavedirect.org ] > To: "af" < [ mailto:af@af.afmug.com | af@af.afmug.com ] > Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2020 2:51:05 PM Subject: [AFMUG] Wifi Campsite Conundrum So we had a campsite that we used to service way back in the day (15 years ago). It was too forested for even 900Mhz to work properly. So we abandoned doing wifi. We still provided the feed to them. As the years passed the campsite didn't do much traffic because the wifi was near impossible. They didn't make any money. Technology improved as years went by and someone decided to put in a new wifi system which still stinks but at least its viable for some people. So he starts to charge money for wifi effectively making thousands of dollars off a regular internet connection. I make this apparent to our new GM that they are on a low end business package but they are advertising and collecting money against our terms of service. That being said I don't think the guy has signed any terms of service since he's been with us so long. But that is a legal battle. I could just shut their internet off and force them to sign the new terms of service. So I saw a potential issue starting to happen. We have fixed wireless customers on one side of the camp. I thought if I created my own bridge network inside the camp we could service customers who want a dedicated internet fast enough for netflix etc. His WIFI can't provide this sort of service. So I offered to bring him in a dedicated bridge and good connection to his camp for free effectively giving him a year free internet (Over $1500 value easily). He could continue to resell Wifi for free effectively!! But we wanted to mount some of our cambium equipment in selected areas in the camp at 5Ghz to reach customers that wanted our internet. So the previous co-owner would have jumped at this. But he died. His brother took over and its been pretty apparent by word of mouth from the campers that this brother is a not too popular. So I pitched the idea to him. This is a no brainer. I warned him most likely my GM was going to ask him to pay more money soon this was a good way out of it. HE TURNED IT DOWN. Fast forward a year and my GM finally has decided that he needs to pay more if he's going to resell. The owner of the campsite decided if raise our price he will not allow us into his camp to service our fixed wireless customers. Is that even legal? If a camper wants to use direct TV or anything like that they can hook what they want up to their trailer. How could he restrict a camper from getting internet from any provider? He going to stop people from getting cellular hubs? Second, I could pull the Arin thing stating that if he's reselling internet he needs to be registered with ARIN to become liable for the traffic. He also needs to register with the CRTC as a telecommunications carrier or the people who run the wifi must. All vouchers need to be accounted for etc. He has no other options in the area other than us. Nobody viable anyway. Wondering how I approach this. Because I actually like the camp. The new owner is a bit of a dick though but it is a nice campsite. 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