FCC fine would wipe out the cost savings many times over. Plus your picture on the wanted posters at every post office.
From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Saturday, May 9, 2020 10:02 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] af11x Man I wish I had saved a few antennas from the years I was making them. I can still build the waveguide adapters. That is easy for me. I wonder what the chance of getting caught running unlicensed is... Anyone have any used gear they want to sell me? From: Mike Hammett Sent: Saturday, May 9, 2020 8:43 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] af11x How much more is it, though, for better radios if you need the better dishes, yet have to buy the Ubiquiti dishes anyway? AF11 kit with dishes (that you'll just throw away) N to waveguide adapters Good dish vs. Better radio Good dish ----- Mike Hammett <http://www.ics-il.com/> Intelligent Computing Solutions <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> Midwest Internet Exchange <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> The Brothers WISP <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> _____ From: "Mathew Howard" <mhoward...@gmail.com <mailto:mhoward...@gmail.com> > To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com> > Sent: Saturday, May 9, 2020 9:21:00 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] af11x I used Comsearch for the last few we did... the price wasn't much different at the time, but I have no idea if that's still the case. Ken is right about the performance... you basically get he same throughput out of dual pol that higher end radios get on single pol. It only really matters if the area is congested, but if it is, you may need to spend more and get better radios. On Sat, May 9, 2020 at 8:51 AM <ch...@wbmfg.com <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> > wrote: So is Liz still the best value for freq coordination and license prep? From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Saturday, May 9, 2020 7:34 AM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: Re: [AFMUG] af11x I don’t have any AF11X and may be remembering wrong, but I think you basically have to coordinate dual pol, for single pol performance. So if you’re in a congested area, it might be marginally more difficult to coordinate because you won’t have the option of using single pol if only V or H is available. V is usually preferred because of less rain fade, so sometimes H is still available. Bottom line, might want to do frequency coordination before buying hardware. From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> > On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Saturday, May 9, 2020 7:15 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] af11x Thanks. Sent from my iPhone On May 8, 2020, at 11:01 PM, Mathew Howard <mhoward...@gmail.com <mailto:mhoward...@gmail.com> > wrote: The kit is available with high band duplexers. But yeah, last I checked, the AF11 is still only in stock anywhere in kit form, so it makes sense to just go with the Ubiquiti dishes (which should be fine for 7 miles anyway), So you'd be at about $3200 for the hardware (2 kits plus two more duplexers to do mimo). If I remember correctly, coordination and licensing was somewhere around $1600 on the last link we did, so you'll probably end up right around $5K total. I haven't ever had any problem finding an open frequency, but that completely depends on the area. On Fri, May 8, 2020 at 6:15 PM Jason Wilson <ja...@remotelylocated.com <mailto:ja...@remotelylocated.com> > wrote: Additionally if you get a high band allotment you’ll need new duplexes all the way around. On Fri, May 8, 2020 at 3:48 PM Jesse DuPont <jesse.dup...@celeritycorp.net <mailto:jesse.dup...@celeritycorp.net> > wrote: Yes. The AF11x "kit" (two radios, two duplexers, two antennas) is $1500, need two more duplexers if doing MIMO - another $500 ish. Then $2K (at the most) for the coordination/licensing fees. If you want better antennas than the UBNT ones in the kit, they'll be over and above. Radiowaves and KP make good ones (they're the same antenna, actually). Jesse DuPont Owner / Network Architect email: jesse.dup...@celeritycorp.net <mailto:jesse.dup...@celeritycorp.net> Celerity Networks LLC / Celerity Broadband LLC Like us! facebook.com/ <http://facebook.com/> celeritynetworksllc Like us! facebook.com/ <http://facebook.com/> celeritybroadband <celeritynetworks-GIF.gif> On 5/8/20 4:41 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote: $4K, both radios, both antennas and a license? From: Jesse DuPont Sent: Friday, May 8, 2020 4:39 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group ; ch...@wbmfg.com <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] af11x About $4K, 700 Mbps. Open freqs completely depends on your location. Might have to upgrade antennas. Jesse DuPont Owner / Network Architect email: jesse.dup...@celeritycorp.net <mailto:jesse.dup...@celeritycorp.net> Celerity Networks LLC / Celerity Broadband LLC Like us! facebook.com/ <http://facebook.com/> celeritynetworksllc Like us! facebook.com/ <http://facebook.com/> celeritybroadband <celeritynetworks-GIF.gif> On 5/8/20 3:26 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote: What is the cost, all in, license, antennas, everything for a system that will do 7 miles? What throughput will that have? 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