How much more is it, though, for better radios if you need the better dishes, 
yet have to buy the Ubiquiti dishes anyway? 

AF11 kit with dishes (that you'll just throw away) 
N to waveguide adapters 
Good dish 


vs. 


Better radio 
Good dish 




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From: "Mathew Howard" <mhoward...@gmail.com> 
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <af@af.afmug.com> 
Sent: Saturday, May 9, 2020 9:21:00 AM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] af11x 


I used Comsearch for the last few we did... the price wasn't much different at 
the time, but I have no idea if that's still the case. 


Ken is right about the performance... you basically get he same throughput out 
of dual pol that higher end radios get on single pol. It only really matters if 
the area is congested, but if it is, you may need to spend more and get better 
radios. 


On Sat, May 9, 2020 at 8:51 AM < ch...@wbmfg.com > wrote: 






So is Liz still the best value for freq coordination and license prep? 




From: Ken Hohhof 
Sent: Saturday, May 9, 2020 7:34 AM 
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] af11x 



I don’t have any AF11X and may be remembering wrong, but I think you basically 
have to coordinate dual pol, for single pol performance. So if you’re in a 
congested area, it might be marginally more difficult to coordinate because you 
won’t have the option of using single pol if only V or H is available. V is 
usually preferred because of less rain fade, so sometimes H is still available. 
Bottom line, might want to do frequency coordination before buying hardware. 



From: AF < af-boun...@af.afmug.com > On Behalf Of Chuck McCown 
Sent: Saturday, May 9, 2020 7:15 AM 
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group < af@af.afmug.com > 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] af11x 

Thanks. 

Sent from my iPhone 




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On May 8, 2020, at 11:01 PM, Mathew Howard < mhoward...@gmail.com > wrote: 


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The kit is available with high band duplexers. 



But yeah, last I checked, the AF11 is still only in stock anywhere in kit form, 
so it makes sense to just go with the Ubiquiti dishes (which should be fine for 
7 miles anyway), So you'd be at about $3200 for the hardware (2 kits plus two 
more duplexers to do mimo). If I remember correctly, coordination and licensing 
was somewhere around $1600 on the last link we did, so you'll probably end up 
right around $5K total. 



I haven't ever had any problem finding an open frequency, but that completely 
depends on the area. 



On Fri, May 8, 2020 at 6:15 PM Jason Wilson < ja...@remotelylocated.com > 
wrote: 
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Additionally if you get a high band allotment you’ll need new duplexes all the 
way around. 




On Fri, May 8, 2020 at 3:48 PM Jesse DuPont < jesse.dup...@celeritycorp.net > 
wrote: 
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Yes. The AF11x "kit" (two radios, two duplexers, two antennas) is $1500, need 
two more duplexers if doing MIMO - another $500 ish. Then $2K (at the most) for 
the coordination/licensing fees. If you want better antennas than the UBNT ones 
in the kit, they'll be over and above. Radiowaves and KP make good ones 
(they're the same antenna, actually). 





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$4K, both radios, both antennas and a license? 






From: Jesse DuPont 

Sent: Friday, May 8, 2020 4:39 PM 

To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group ; ch...@wbmfg.com 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] af11x 



About $4K, 700 Mbps. Open freqs completely depends on your location. Might have 
to upgrade antennas. 



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What is the cost, all in, license, antennas, everything for a system that will 
do 7 miles? 

What throughput will that have? 

How likely is it to find an open frequency? 



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