I don't think most infections have pre-existing conditions, but it
certainly seems like most deaths do.
On Tue, May 5, 2020 at 11:03 AM Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com> wrote:
> The numbers posted on various web sites are neither government sourced or
> corporate sourced. Hospitals, clinics, and morgues are supplying the
> numbers. There is a level of uncertainty because of different criteria.
> That is true for the US cases, but probably not for other countries. For
> example, the numbers coming from China (and several other countries) are by
> design government based. But to brush them all off as "government or
> corporations" is being naive at least.
>
> I would not say that "most" patients have pre-existing conditions. Maybe a
> high percentage, but it does not explain why such a large number of
> otherwise healthy people are being infected the way they are. At some
> point, we will figure out that there is a genetic or environmental factor
> that we just do not understand yet.
>
> I (for one) do not believe the numbers are 100% accurate, but I also do
> not believe the numbers are 100% fictitious either. Where you cut off is
> probably a personal thing.
>
> bp
> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>
>
> On 5/5/2020 6:55 AM, Steven Kenney wrote:
>
> You guys work with statistics much? You think the numbers are accurate?
> At what point have you ever seen government or corporations represent 100%
> accurate numbers?
>
> I'll let you do your own homework. But I've seen hundreds of reports from
> all over the place of deaths of natural causes being classified as covid
> deaths. Since most patients have existing conditions and many were already
> dying and died of those conditions (heart attack, cancer etc) are being
> attributed to covid. Some people have estimated that upward of 20%
> misrepresented. So as long as there is 1 case that is questionable - the
> statistics are not accurate.
>
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> ------------------------------
> *From: *"Bill Prince" <part15...@gmail.com> <part15...@gmail.com>
> *To: *"af" <af@af.afmug.com> <af@af.afmug.com>
> *Sent: *Monday, May 4, 2020 2:04:16 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] OT Is this good?
>
> The numbers are not "completely" false, but it's the best we can do when
> we don't actually test all the suspected infections. It also (probably)
> missed a whole lot of the early deaths, as they were miss-classified. If
> you think under-ground near-do-wells are planted in all the hospitals
> around the country and are coordinating false numbers on all the rest of
> us, then I have a tin hat that might fit real well.
>
>
> bp
> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>
>
> On 5/4/2020 10:48 AM, Steven Kenney wrote:
>
> Numbers are completely false. Even with that taken into regard it still
> is just as lethal as the regular flu. While it is way more harsh on people
> if they get it, most people have underlying conditions, or didn't know they
> had them, or didn't take it serious when they got it.
>
> Unfortunately politicians never waste a crisis to further their agenda.
>
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> *From: *"chuck" <ch...@wbmfg.com> <ch...@wbmfg.com>
> *To: *"af" <af@af.afmug.com> <af@af.afmug.com>
> *Sent: *Monday, May 4, 2020 12:30:08 PM
> *Subject: *[AFMUG] OT Is this good?
>
> [image: image]
>
> Every time I get my hopes up this curve breaks my heart... Let’s hope we
> are on the tail of a normal curve.
> 6 days in a row decline. But it has done this cycle 3 times before with a
> huge spike after.
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