Which is why there are accurate numbers out there but why aren't they being used as baselines for comparisons instead of what what done, by example, by Dr. Erickson?  Simply because of agendas. Both ways and sideways.  There are so many focusing on themselves instead of the society that it's all f'd up.   Testing, testing, testing.   It should be A numero uno objective of every group that has the ability to contribute to that.  That's what gets the good results in countries that are beating this.

On 5/5/20 7:27 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
Well, every single person that dies in Utah is tested for the virus and this has been happening for a couple of months.  The guy in charge of the testing is the Lt Gov.  A personal friend of mine.  Yes, I do think our numbers are accurate.  Dead on here in Utah.
*From:* Steven Kenney
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You guys work with statistics much?  You think the numbers are accurate?  At what point have you ever seen government or corporations represent 100% accurate numbers? I'll let you do your own homework.  But I've seen hundreds of reports from all over the place of deaths of natural causes being classified as covid deaths.  Since most patients have existing conditions and many were already dying and died of those conditions (heart attack, cancer etc)  are being attributed to covid. Some people have estimated that upward of 20% misrepresented.  So as long as there is 1 case that is questionable - the statistics are not accurate.
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The numbers are not "completely" false, but it's the best we can do when we don't actually test all the suspected infections. It also (probably) missed a whole lot of the early deaths, as they were miss-classified. If you think under-ground near-do-wells are planted in all the hospitals around the country and are coordinating false numbers on all the rest of us, then I have a tin hat that might fit real well.

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On 5/4/2020 10:48 AM, Steven Kenney wrote:

    Numbers are completely false.  Even with that taken into regard it
    still is just as lethal as the regular flu.  While it is way more
    harsh on people if they get it, most people have underlying
    conditions, or didn't know they had them, or didn't take it
    serious when they got it.
    Unfortunately politicians never waste a crisis to further their
    agenda.
-- Steven Kenney
    Network Operations Manager
    WaveDirect Telecommunications
    http://www.wavedirect.net
    (519)737-WAVE (9283)
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    *Sent: *Monday, May 4, 2020 12:30:08 PM
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    Every time I get my hopes up this curve breaks my heart...  Let’s
    hope we are on the tail of a normal curve.
    6 days in a row decline.  But it has done this cycle 3 times
    before with a huge spike after.

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