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On Tue, Apr 28, 2020, 8:24 PM Sean Heskett <af...@zirkel.us> wrote: > You stated: > “as long as your house doesnt integrate into multiple facets of society, > including government thats 100% true” > > That Statement infers a large house. > > Where’s the line in the sand? > > If my social media platform integrates into some facets of society, but > not all, including some government, but not all, is that ok? > > Just curious > > -Sean > > > On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 7:15 PM Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> who said anything about the size of the house >> >> On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 8:13 PM Sean Heskett <af...@zirkel.us> wrote: >> >>> Why should the size of the house matter? It’s my house, I built it with >>> my money. You are free to build your own house or hang out at someone >>> else’s house. >>> >>> >>> In fact here on good ole animal farm we have lent and we can’t just say >>> whatever we want...this is chuck’s house and we all abide by his rules. >>> >>> Sean >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 6:40 PM Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> as long as your house doesnt integrate into multiple facets of society, >>>> including government thats 100% true >>>> >>>> On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 6:56 PM Sean Heskett <af...@zirkel.us> wrote: >>>> >>>>> You can always use gab.com the twitter alternative that champions >>>>> free speech on their platform. >>>>> >>>>> Honestly if I build a house and invite you to come over for free to >>>>> hang out and you start saying things I don’t like while inside my house I >>>>> should be and I am entitled to kick you out of my house or make you shut >>>>> up >>>>> etc. >>>>> >>>>> now replace house with “social media platform” >>>>> >>>>> -Sean >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 10:15 AM Steve Jones < >>>>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> yep, and your message can be removed in an instant if it does not >>>>>> comply with the narrative >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 11:06 AM <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Not really. Today you can get your message out to the world with a >>>>>>> tweet. >>>>>>> How would you have been able to do that 100 years ago? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> *From:* Steven Kenney >>>>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 28, 2020 9:54 AM >>>>>>> *To:* af >>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT still a bit of hope and optimism >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I sense overwhelming sarcasm. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Steven Kenney >>>>>>> Network Operations Manager >>>>>>> WaveDirect Telecommunications >>>>>>> http://www.wavedirect.net >>>>>>> (519)737-WAVE (9283) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>>>> *From: *"chuck" <ch...@wbmfg.com> >>>>>>> *To: *"af" <af@af.afmug.com> >>>>>>> *Sent: *Tuesday, April 28, 2020 8:14:10 AM >>>>>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] OT still a bit of hope and optimism >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 100 years ago it was newspapers and they only printed what they >>>>>>> wanted you to hear. Things are much better now. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Apr 28, 2020, at 2:49 AM, Jason McKemie < >>>>>>> j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It's a problem when the main conduits for communication are all >>>>>>> private corporations though, especially in situations like this. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tuesday, April 28, 2020, Sean Heskett <af...@zirkel.us> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Most people don’t realize that the constitutional protection of >>>>>>>> free speech protects the government from stifling speech...private >>>>>>>> citizens >>>>>>>> and corporations are not required to protect anyone’s speech. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Not saying I agree or disagree with it, just stating what the >>>>>>>> constitution says. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> YMMV >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -Sean >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 27, 2020 at 11:19 PM Jason McKemie < >>>>>>>> j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Being "not evil" I guess. Another copy has been put up, but the >>>>>>>>> stifling of free speech is a bit alarming. They do this all of the >>>>>>>>> time >>>>>>>>> with things the left deems inappropriate. I'm pretty much centrist, >>>>>>>>> but the >>>>>>>>> fringe at both sides is absolutely abhorrent, I'll go back to >>>>>>>>> adhering to >>>>>>>>> lent now. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, April 28, 2020, Robert <i...@avantwireless.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Whoa, google took it down? That's amazing. I wonder what the >>>>>>>>>> process that resulted in that was? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 4/27/20 8:01 PM, Jason McKemie wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I'll watch it again, but it's a bit difficult now since Google >>>>>>>>>> took it down. Doesn't help the case that they feel like they need to >>>>>>>>>> cover >>>>>>>>>> it up as opposed to just tearing it apart if it is so wrong. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Monday, April 27, 2020, Robert <i...@avantwireless.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> It's was pitched that way but you look at what they are doing >>>>>>>>>>> with the "numbers" is totally fictitious... >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On 4/27/20 7:01 PM, Jason McKemie wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> If we're thinking of the same video I thought it was pretty >>>>>>>>>>> refreshing, and the overall gist of the thing seemed pretty sound >>>>>>>>>>> to me. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, April 27, 2020, Robert <i...@avantwireless.com> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Yep, speculation that a couple of doctors in Kern County CA >>>>>>>>>>>> treated like science fact to back up their agenda... Ethics in >>>>>>>>>>>> Medicine >>>>>>>>>>>> is just about dead, put another nail in the coffin.. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On 4/27/20 12:25 PM, Bill Prince wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Well... here we are one week later, and we just ticked over 1 >>>>>>>>>>>> million confirmed infections in the US. Let's hope that's the tip >>>>>>>>>>>> of the >>>>>>>>>>>> iceberg, and that the actual infections is in the neighborhood of >>>>>>>>>>>> 50-80 >>>>>>>>>>>> million. I don't believe the number is actually that high, but I >>>>>>>>>>>> would >>>>>>>>>>>> believe something around 5-8 million. Either way, it is still just >>>>>>>>>>>> speculation. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> bp >>>>>>>>>>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On 4/20/2020 9:33 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> What are the treatments that are now working? I try to be >>>>>>>>>>>> optimistic about antivirals and convalescent plasma, but right now >>>>>>>>>>>> they >>>>>>>>>>>> mainly have ventilators, which honestly aren’t very successful if >>>>>>>>>>>> 70-80% of >>>>>>>>>>>> the people die. They keep doing that because it’s the textbook >>>>>>>>>>>> therapy for >>>>>>>>>>>> respiratory distress, but it ain’t working. Even if it were >>>>>>>>>>>> working, >>>>>>>>>>>> ventilators are not a treatment, they don’t reverse the disease, >>>>>>>>>>>> they are >>>>>>>>>>>> just a measure to get you oxygen while your body hopefully fights >>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>> infection. And then you have the people experiencing kidney >>>>>>>>>>>> failure and >>>>>>>>>>>> needing dialysis, they’re not sure if the damage is permanent. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I hope you’re right that the medical community has learned how >>>>>>>>>>>> to treat it, but I haven’t heard the evidence for that. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Regarding a vaccine, one interesting piece of information I >>>>>>>>>>>> read was that even if they develop a successful and safe vaccine >>>>>>>>>>>> (many >>>>>>>>>>>> challenges including the sensitization problem), then they have to >>>>>>>>>>>> scale up >>>>>>>>>>>> vaccine production. Right now most vaccines are just for each new >>>>>>>>>>>> wave of >>>>>>>>>>>> schoolchildren, this would have to be for the entire population. >>>>>>>>>>>> And not >>>>>>>>>>>> in chicken eggs, it would have to be in big vats. And the >>>>>>>>>>>> interesting part >>>>>>>>>>>> is they could repurpose fermentation tanks used for things like >>>>>>>>>>>> brewing >>>>>>>>>>>> beer. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> *From:* AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com *On Behalf Of *Bill >>>>>>>>>>>> Prince >>>>>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Monday, April 20, 2020 11:20 AM >>>>>>>>>>>> *To:* af@af.afmug.com >>>>>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT still a bit of hope and optimism >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Time will tell based on whether it actually starts declining in >>>>>>>>>>>> a meaningful way, or whether we're going to bump along for a bit. >>>>>>>>>>>> Remember, >>>>>>>>>>>> the goal was to flatten the curve; it wasn't necessarily going to >>>>>>>>>>>> reduce >>>>>>>>>>>> the number of infections. I get the impression that the medical >>>>>>>>>>>> community >>>>>>>>>>>> has learned a lot about how to actually treat it. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Let's see where we are a week from today (April 27). If we are >>>>>>>>>>>> over 1 million infections, this may be going a while yet. If it is >>>>>>>>>>>> under 1 >>>>>>>>>>>> million, I would be more encouraged. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> bp >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On 4/20/2020 8:20 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Looks a bit Gaussian to me. I hope... >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> <image001.png> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> AF mailing list >>>>>>>>> AF@af.afmug.com >>>>>>>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> AF mailing list >>>>>>> AF@af.afmug.com >>>>>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> AF mailing list >>>>>>> AF@af.afmug.com >>>>>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> AF mailing list >>>>>>> AF@af.afmug.com >>>>>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> AF mailing list >>>>>>> AF@af.afmug.com >>>>>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> AF mailing list >>>>>> AF@af.afmug.com >>>>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> AF mailing list >>>>> AF@af.afmug.com >>>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>>> >>>> -- >>>> AF mailing list >>>> AF@af.afmug.com >>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>> >>> -- >>> AF mailing list >>> AF@af.afmug.com >>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>> >> -- >> AF mailing list >> AF@af.afmug.com >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >
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