who said anything about the size of the house On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 8:13 PM Sean Heskett <af...@zirkel.us> wrote:
> Why should the size of the house matter? It’s my house, I built it with > my money. You are free to build your own house or hang out at someone > else’s house. > > > In fact here on good ole animal farm we have lent and we can’t just say > whatever we want...this is chuck’s house and we all abide by his rules. > > Sean > > > > On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 6:40 PM Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> as long as your house doesnt integrate into multiple facets of society, >> including government thats 100% true >> >> On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 6:56 PM Sean Heskett <af...@zirkel.us> wrote: >> >>> You can always use gab.com the twitter alternative that champions free >>> speech on their platform. >>> >>> Honestly if I build a house and invite you to come over for free to hang >>> out and you start saying things I don’t like while inside my house I should >>> be and I am entitled to kick you out of my house or make you shut up etc. >>> >>> now replace house with “social media platform” >>> >>> -Sean >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 10:15 AM Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> yep, and your message can be removed in an instant if it does not >>>> comply with the narrative >>>> >>>> On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 11:06 AM <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Not really. Today you can get your message out to the world with a >>>>> tweet. >>>>> How would you have been able to do that 100 years ago? >>>>> >>>>> *From:* Steven Kenney >>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 28, 2020 9:54 AM >>>>> *To:* af >>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT still a bit of hope and optimism >>>>> >>>>> I sense overwhelming sarcasm. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Steven Kenney >>>>> Network Operations Manager >>>>> WaveDirect Telecommunications >>>>> http://www.wavedirect.net >>>>> (519)737-WAVE (9283) >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>> *From: *"chuck" <ch...@wbmfg.com> >>>>> *To: *"af" <af@af.afmug.com> >>>>> *Sent: *Tuesday, April 28, 2020 8:14:10 AM >>>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] OT still a bit of hope and optimism >>>>> >>>>> 100 years ago it was newspapers and they only printed what they wanted >>>>> you to hear. Things are much better now. >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>> >>>>> On Apr 28, 2020, at 2:49 AM, Jason McKemie < >>>>> j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> It's a problem when the main conduits for communication are all >>>>> private corporations though, especially in situations like this. >>>>> >>>>> On Tuesday, April 28, 2020, Sean Heskett <af...@zirkel.us> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Most people don’t realize that the constitutional protection of free >>>>>> speech protects the government from stifling speech...private citizens >>>>>> and >>>>>> corporations are not required to protect anyone’s speech. >>>>>> >>>>>> Not saying I agree or disagree with it, just stating what the >>>>>> constitution says. >>>>>> >>>>>> YMMV >>>>>> >>>>>> -Sean >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, Apr 27, 2020 at 11:19 PM Jason McKemie < >>>>>> j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Being "not evil" I guess. Another copy has been put up, but the >>>>>>> stifling of free speech is a bit alarming. They do this all of the time >>>>>>> with things the left deems inappropriate. I'm pretty much centrist, but >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> fringe at both sides is absolutely abhorrent, I'll go back to adhering >>>>>>> to >>>>>>> lent now. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tuesday, April 28, 2020, Robert <i...@avantwireless.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Whoa, google took it down? That's amazing. I wonder what the >>>>>>>> process that resulted in that was? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 4/27/20 8:01 PM, Jason McKemie wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I'll watch it again, but it's a bit difficult now since Google took >>>>>>>> it down. Doesn't help the case that they feel like they need to cover >>>>>>>> it up >>>>>>>> as opposed to just tearing it apart if it is so wrong. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Monday, April 27, 2020, Robert <i...@avantwireless.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> It's was pitched that way but you look at what they are doing with >>>>>>>>> the "numbers" is totally fictitious... >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 4/27/20 7:01 PM, Jason McKemie wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> If we're thinking of the same video I thought it was pretty >>>>>>>>> refreshing, and the overall gist of the thing seemed pretty sound to >>>>>>>>> me. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Monday, April 27, 2020, Robert <i...@avantwireless.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Yep, speculation that a couple of doctors in Kern County CA >>>>>>>>>> treated like science fact to back up their agenda... Ethics in >>>>>>>>>> Medicine >>>>>>>>>> is just about dead, put another nail in the coffin.. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 4/27/20 12:25 PM, Bill Prince wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Well... here we are one week later, and we just ticked over 1 >>>>>>>>>> million confirmed infections in the US. Let's hope that's the tip of >>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>> iceberg, and that the actual infections is in the neighborhood of >>>>>>>>>> 50-80 >>>>>>>>>> million. I don't believe the number is actually that high, but I >>>>>>>>>> would >>>>>>>>>> believe something around 5-8 million. Either way, it is still just >>>>>>>>>> speculation. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> bp >>>>>>>>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 4/20/2020 9:33 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> What are the treatments that are now working? I try to be >>>>>>>>>> optimistic about antivirals and convalescent plasma, but right now >>>>>>>>>> they >>>>>>>>>> mainly have ventilators, which honestly aren’t very successful if >>>>>>>>>> 70-80% of >>>>>>>>>> the people die. They keep doing that because it’s the textbook >>>>>>>>>> therapy for >>>>>>>>>> respiratory distress, but it ain’t working. Even if it were working, >>>>>>>>>> ventilators are not a treatment, they don’t reverse the disease, >>>>>>>>>> they are >>>>>>>>>> just a measure to get you oxygen while your body hopefully fights the >>>>>>>>>> infection. And then you have the people experiencing kidney failure >>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>> needing dialysis, they’re not sure if the damage is permanent. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I hope you’re right that the medical community has learned how to >>>>>>>>>> treat it, but I haven’t heard the evidence for that. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Regarding a vaccine, one interesting piece of information I read >>>>>>>>>> was that even if they develop a successful and safe vaccine (many >>>>>>>>>> challenges including the sensitization problem), then they have to >>>>>>>>>> scale up >>>>>>>>>> vaccine production. Right now most vaccines are just for each new >>>>>>>>>> wave of >>>>>>>>>> schoolchildren, this would have to be for the entire population. >>>>>>>>>> And not >>>>>>>>>> in chicken eggs, it would have to be in big vats. And the >>>>>>>>>> interesting part >>>>>>>>>> is they could repurpose fermentation tanks used for things like >>>>>>>>>> brewing >>>>>>>>>> beer. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> *From:* AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com *On Behalf Of *Bill >>>>>>>>>> Prince >>>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Monday, April 20, 2020 11:20 AM >>>>>>>>>> *To:* af@af.afmug.com >>>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT still a bit of hope and optimism >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Time will tell based on whether it actually starts declining in a >>>>>>>>>> meaningful way, or whether we're going to bump along for a bit. >>>>>>>>>> Remember, >>>>>>>>>> the goal was to flatten the curve; it wasn't necessarily going to >>>>>>>>>> reduce >>>>>>>>>> the number of infections. I get the impression that the medical >>>>>>>>>> community >>>>>>>>>> has learned a lot about how to actually treat it. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Let's see where we are a week from today (April 27). If we are >>>>>>>>>> over 1 million infections, this may be going a while yet. If it is >>>>>>>>>> under 1 >>>>>>>>>> million, I would be more encouraged. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> bp >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 4/20/2020 8:20 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Looks a bit Gaussian to me. 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