I was referring to newspapers printing what the public wants to hear. The exact opposite. They print what they want you to believe.
-- Steven Kenney Network Operations Manager WaveDirect Telecommunications http://www.wavedirect.net (519)737-WAVE (9283) From: "chuck" <ch...@wbmfg.com> To: "af" <af@af.afmug.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2020 12:06:12 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT still a bit of hope and optimism Not really. Today you can get your message out to the world with a tweet. How would you have been able to do that 100 years ago? From: Steven Kenney Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2020 9:54 AM To: af Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT still a bit of hope and optimism I sense overwhelming sarcasm. -- Steven Kenney Network Operations Manager WaveDirect Telecommunications http://www.wavedirect.net (519)737-WAVE (9283) From: "chuck" <ch...@wbmfg.com> To: "af" <af@af.afmug.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2020 8:14:10 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT still a bit of hope and optimism 100 years ago it was newspapers and they only printed what they wanted you to hear. Things are much better now. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 28, 2020, at 2:49 AM, Jason McKemie <j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote: BQ_BEGIN It's a problem when the main conduits for communication are all private corporations though, especially in situations like this. On Tuesday, April 28, 2020, Sean Heskett < af...@zirkel.us > wrote: BQ_BEGIN Most people don’t realize that the constitutional protection of free speech protects the government from stifling speech...private citizens and corporations are not required to protect anyone’s speech. Not saying I agree or disagree with it, just stating what the constitution says. YMMV -Sean On Mon, Apr 27, 2020 at 11:19 PM Jason McKemie < j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com > wrote: BQ_BEGIN Being "not evil" I guess. Another copy has been put up, but the stifling of free speech is a bit alarming. They do this all of the time with things the left deems inappropriate. I'm pretty much centrist, but the fringe at both sides is absolutely abhorrent, I'll go back to adhering to lent now. On Tuesday, April 28, 2020, Robert < i...@avantwireless.com > wrote: BQ_BEGIN Whoa, google took it down? That's amazing. I wonder what the process that resulted in that was? On 4/27/20 8:01 PM, Jason McKemie wrote: BQ_BEGIN I'll watch it again, but it's a bit difficult now since Google took it down. Doesn't help the case that they feel like they need to cover it up as opposed to just tearing it apart if it is so wrong. On Monday, April 27, 2020, Robert < i...@avantwireless.com > wrote: BQ_BEGIN It's was pitched that way but you look at what they are doing with the "numbers" is totally fictitious... On 4/27/20 7:01 PM, Jason McKemie wrote: BQ_BEGIN If we're thinking of the same video I thought it was pretty refreshing, and the overall gist of the thing seemed pretty sound to me. On Monday, April 27, 2020, Robert < i...@avantwireless.com > wrote: BQ_BEGIN Yep, speculation that a couple of doctors in Kern County CA treated like science fact to back up their agenda... Ethics in Medicine is just about dead, put another nail in the coffin.. On 4/27/20 12:25 PM, Bill Prince wrote: BQ_BEGIN Well... here we are one week later, and we just ticked over 1 million confirmed infections in the US. Let's hope that's the tip of the iceberg, and that the actual infections is in the neighborhood of 50-80 million. I don't believe the number is actually that high, but I would believe something around 5-8 million. Either way, it is still just speculation. bp <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> On 4/20/2020 9:33 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: BQ_BEGIN What are the treatments that are now working? I try to be optimistic about antivirals and convalescent plasma, but right now they mainly have ventilators, which honestly aren’t very successful if 70-80% of the people die. They keep doing that because it’s the textbook therapy for respiratory distress, but it ain’t working. Even if it were working, ventilators are not a treatment, they don’t reverse the disease, they are just a measure to get you oxygen while your body hopefully fights the infection. And then you have the people experiencing kidney failure and needing dialysis, they’re not sure if the damage is permanent. I hope you’re right that the medical community has learned how to treat it, but I haven’t heard the evidence for that. Regarding a vaccine, one interesting piece of information I read was that even if they develop a successful and safe vaccine (many challenges including the sensitization problem), then they have to scale up vaccine production. Right now most vaccines are just for each new wave of schoolchildren, this would have to be for the entire population. And not in chicken eggs, it would have to be in big vats. And the interesting part is they could repurpose fermentation tanks used for things like brewing beer. From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com On Behalf Of Bill Prince Sent: Monday, April 20, 2020 11:20 AM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT still a bit of hope and optimism Time will tell based on whether it actually starts declining in a meaningful way, or whether we're going to bump along for a bit. Remember, the goal was to flatten the curve; it wasn't necessarily going to reduce the number of infections. I get the impression that the medical community has learned a lot about how to actually treat it. Let's see where we are a week from today (April 27). If we are over 1 million infections, this may be going a while yet. If it is under 1 million, I would be more encouraged. bp <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> On 4/20/2020 8:20 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: BQ_BEGIN Looks a bit Gaussian to me. 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