President of J&J on today show I think a week ago ( time is getting very
weird these days )
On 04/20/2020 05:03 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
Not that it matters, but where does 2 months come from?
https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/03/1-billion-bet-pharma-giant-and-us-government-team-all-out-coronavirus-vaccine-push
(And I hope someone is setting up to manufacture 1 billion syringes.)
*From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Robert
*Sent:* Monday, April 20, 2020 6:44 PM
*To:* af@af.afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT still a bit of hope and optimism
J&J is proclaiming LOUDLY that they will have 1 Billion doses of vaccine
in 2 months. But it won't be available to administer until testing
completes in January. So IF that vaccine completes testing
_successfully_ ( big IF ). They will be ready for world innoculation (
and they say at no profit ) in January.
On 4/20/20 9:33 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
What are the treatments that are now working? I try to be
optimistic about antivirals and convalescent plasma, but right now
they mainly have ventilators, which honestly aren’t very successful
if 70-80% of the people die. They keep doing that because it’s the
textbook therapy for respiratory distress, but it ain’t working.
Even if it were working, ventilators are not a treatment, they don’t
reverse the disease, they are just a measure to get you oxygen while
your body hopefully fights the infection. And then you have the
people experiencing kidney failure and needing dialysis, they’re not
sure if the damage is permanent.
I hope you’re right that the medical community has learned how to
treat it, but I haven’t heard the evidence for that.
Regarding a vaccine, one interesting piece of information I read was
that even if they develop a successful and safe vaccine (many
challenges including the sensitization problem), then they have to
scale up vaccine production. Right now most vaccines are just for
each new wave of schoolchildren, this would have to be for the
entire population. And not in chicken eggs, it would have to be in
big vats. And the interesting part is they could repurpose
fermentation tanks used for things like brewing beer.
*From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com>
<mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Bill Prince
*Sent:* Monday, April 20, 2020 11:20 AM
*To:* af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT still a bit of hope and optimism
Time will tell based on whether it actually starts declining in a
meaningful way, or whether we're going to bump along for a bit.
Remember, the goal was to flatten the curve; it wasn't necessarily
going to reduce the number of infections. I get the impression that
the medical community has learned a lot about how to actually treat it.
Let's see where we are a week from today (April 27). If we are over
1 million infections, this may be going a while yet. If it is under
1 million, I would be more encouraged.
bp
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On 4/20/2020 8:20 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
Looks a bit Gaussian to me. I hope...
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