Whoa, google took it down?  That's amazing.   I wonder what the process that resulted in that was?

On 4/27/20 8:01 PM, Jason McKemie wrote:
I'll watch it again, but it's a bit difficult now since Google took it down. Doesn't help the case that they feel like they need to cover it up as opposed to just tearing it apart if it is so wrong.

On Monday, April 27, 2020, Robert <i...@avantwireless.com <mailto:i...@avantwireless.com>> wrote:

    It's was pitched that way but you look at what they are doing with
    the "numbers" is totally fictitious...


    On 4/27/20 7:01 PM, Jason McKemie wrote:
    If we're thinking of the same video I thought it was pretty
    refreshing, and the overall gist of the thing seemed pretty sound
    to me.

    On Monday, April 27, 2020, Robert <i...@avantwireless.com
    <mailto:i...@avantwireless.com>> wrote:

        Yep, speculation that a couple of doctors in Kern County CA
        treated like science fact to back up their agenda...   Ethics
        in Medicine is just about dead, put another nail in the coffin..

        On 4/27/20 12:25 PM, Bill Prince wrote:

        Well... here we are one week later, and we just ticked over
        1 million confirmed infections in the US. Let's hope that's
        the tip of the iceberg, and that the actual infections is in
        the neighborhood of 50-80 million. I don't believe the
        number is actually that high, but I would believe something
        around 5-8 million. Either way, it is still just speculation.


        bp
        <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>

        On 4/20/2020 9:33 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:

        What are the treatments that are now working?  I try to be
        optimistic about antivirals and convalescent plasma, but
        right now they mainly have ventilators, which honestly
        aren’t very successful if 70-80% of the people die.  They
        keep doing that because it’s the textbook therapy for
        respiratory distress, but it ain’t working.  Even if it
        were working, ventilators are not a treatment, they don’t
        reverse the disease, they are just a measure to get you
        oxygen while your body hopefully fights the infection.  And
        then you have the people experiencing kidney failure and
        needing dialysis, they’re not sure if the damage is permanent.

        I hope you’re right that the medical community has learned
        how to treat it, but I haven’t heard the evidence for that.

        Regarding a vaccine, one interesting piece of information I
        read was that even if they develop a successful and safe
        vaccine (many challenges including the sensitization
        problem), then they have to scale up vaccine production. 
        Right now most vaccines are just for each new wave of
        schoolchildren, this would have to be for the entire
        population.  And not in chicken eggs, it would have to be
        in big vats.  And the interesting part is they could
        repurpose fermentation tanks used for things like brewing beer.

        *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com>
        <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Bill Prince
        *Sent:* Monday, April 20, 2020 11:20 AM
        *To:* af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>
        *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT still a bit of hope and optimism

        Time will tell based on whether it actually starts
        declining in a meaningful way, or whether we're going to
        bump along for a bit. Remember, the goal was to flatten the
        curve; it wasn't necessarily going to reduce the number of
        infections. I get the impression that the medical community
        has learned a lot about how to actually treat it.

        Let's see where we are a week from today (April 27). If we
        are over 1 million infections, this may be going a while
        yet. If it is under 1 million, I would be more encouraged.

        bp
        <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
        On 4/20/2020 8:20 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com
        <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

            Looks a bit Gaussian to me.  I hope...

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