They never mentioned this on The Jetsons.
*From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Adam Moffett
*Sent:* Thursday, March 26, 2020 8:48 AM
*To:* af@af.afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] CNHeat
We've had flying cars for a long time, but we call them helicopters.
You could make it thing powered by ducted jets and it'll just look
cooler and burn way more fuel. The bigger problem isn't building a
flying car, it's that the driver needs to be a licensed pilot and file
flight plans.
On 3/25/2020 9:10 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
Hey, I asked first for RF goggles and an R2D2 tower monkey, no
cutting in line. Oh, and where’s my flying car?
*From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com>
<mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones
*Sent:* Wednesday, March 25, 2020 8:04 PM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
<mailto:af@af.afmug.com>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] CNHeat
I'd hope we go onsite. Id pay slot more for cnheat if it did the
installs too. Like shoots a rocket from cambium hq, lands on the
spot, nanotech installs
On Wed, Mar 25, 2020, 3:39 PM Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com
<mailto:af...@kwisp.com>> wrote:
Of course that 5x5 patch has to be verified onsite, especially
for trees near the site. Stupid trees grow, or blow in the wind.
I had a customer once with a windbreak of whatever those
really tall skinny trees are, not the evergreens, some kind or
poplar or something that grows 5-10 feet per in height per
year. The trees had grown to be taller than the house, and
they took 2 of them out with a chainsaw. Everything was fine
when the wind was from the north, but with a strong wind from
the south, the link would completely drop. She wouldn’t
believe me the trees were bending in the wind, until I had a
tech climb up on the second story roof and plug a little
amplified speaker into the tone alignment port of the Cambium
SM. You could watch the trees sway back and forth and listen
to the tone rise and fall, and drop out when the wind blew
hard enough.
*From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com
<mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones
*Sent:* Wednesday, March 25, 2020 2:55 PM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com
<mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] CNHeat
that would be a discussion to have with them.
LOS is the gold standard, and finding a 5x5 patch with it in
30 seconds is amazing. We are 99.9% on pulling the trigger
On Wed, Mar 25, 2020 at 2:53 PM Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com
<mailto:af...@kwisp.com>> wrote:
900 is magic not science. I never felt there was a
logical explanation to where it worked and where it
didn't. I also believe cnHeat is basically looking for
LOS, and if you asked it to evaluate NLOS paths, now the
LIDAR data would have to distinguish maples from pines
from buildings.
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From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com
<mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> On Behalf Of Jay Weekley
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 12:08 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com
<mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CNHeat
Thanks. I'm watching an old webinar where only 5GHz and
3.5 GHz was supported. 900 was on the road map.
Jeff Broadwick - Lists wrote:
> At least 900, 2.4, 3.5, and 5
>
> Jeff Broadwick
> CTIconnect
> 312-205-2519 Office
> 574-220-7826 Cell
> jbroadw...@cticonnect.com <mailto:jbroadw...@cticonnect.com>
>
>> On Mar 25, 2020, at 12:18 PM, Jay Weekley
<par...@cyberbroadband.net
<mailto:par...@cyberbroadband.net>> wrote:
>>
>> What frequencies does it support?
>>
>> ch...@wbmfg.com <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>>> How do they charge for it? Can you do work for the
next guy over?
>>> *From:* Steve Jones
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 24, 2020 6:20 PM
>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] CNHeat
>>> I would bet they would be able to get something
arranged. You never know if you don't ask. I know one isp
in the same boat, 150 towers, lots of hills, I can see the
price being too high. But the other part where they help
identify best locations to cover from may be worth it.
Less towers and more coverage is always good. Planting
people seeds would be good too. But they're hard to keep
watered.
>>> On Tue, Mar 24, 2020, 6:50 PM SmarterBroadband
<li...@sbb.net <mailto:li...@sbb.net>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I would love to give it a go. But the pricing
model of per site
>>> does not work for us. We have to have many small
sites because of
>>> hills and trees , over 90 currently. I can see
if you had a few
>>> mega sites it could make sense.
>>>
>>> *From:* AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com
<mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>] *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 24, 2020 10:15 AM
>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
<af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] CNHeat
>>>
>>> much much more than free
>>>
>>> but much much less input and much much much more
output
>>>
>>> I had the same question, and skepticism, until i
saw the data and
>>> applied it to our real world.
>>>
>>> The way I look at it, radio mobile costs zero. A
no line of site
>>> generates zero, so thats a wash on its face. but
the truck rolled
>>> and other jobs werent done, so theres a net loss.
that in itself
>>> probably scales to the price over the course of
the customer we
>>> missed.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 12:10 PM <ch...@wbmfg.com
<mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> What does it cost? More than Radio Mobile...?
>>>
>>> *From:*Steve Jones
>>>
>>> *Sent:*Tuesday, March 24, 2020 11:04 AM
>>>
>>> *To:*AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>>>
>>> *Subject:*[AFMUG] CNHeat
>>>
>>> I dont know if many of you degenerates over
here still do this
>>> pasky WISP stuff, but I am demoing CNHeat,
this is a literal
>>> game changer, we took a no line of site this
morning to
>>> install. we would have walked away, btu
happened to have the
>>> CNHeat for the location. found the spot, great
signal (we
>>> actually missed it because walking the roof
and the scan time
>>> didnt grab it)
>>>
>>> there was a marginal spot we considered, this
would have been
>>> bad long term.
>>>
>>> we went through migrating a few hundred
customers off 320 to
>>> EPMp the last few months, this would have been
a godsend, half
>>> of them will need to be revisited in spring
when leaves come
>>> out, but we were pressing to clear 320 to make
room for 450
>>> cbrs stuff
>>>
>>> your installer can walk out the door each
morning with a
>>> picture and have a best location target,
install survey times
>>> will be minimized and youll know youre well
beyond first good
>>> spot, and on the probably best spot.
>>>
>>> I dont come across a product im this excited
about too often.
>>> If I had the time id go look at the last years
NLOS and see
>>> where we missed revenue options. And this is
just IDENTIFY the
>>> other two components are crazy perfect too
>>>
>>> like anything, youll need to know how to look
at the data, and
>>> its only as good as the data you put in, I
think we are all
>>> familiar with that here.
>>>
>>> This is nowhere near free, but i think abut
how much less I
>>> can do on my Access points because of marginal
installs, and
>>> how much we have lost in NLOS that didnt need
to be
>>>
>>>
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