That is why they removed full auto after the M16A1 because they found
after three rounds you were no longer accurate (a bi-pod or tri-pod
mounted machine gun is a different engagement strategy).
One shot, one kill, ready to die but never will :)
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Bill Prince wrote on 3/13/20 08:49:
>
> In my experience, firing a weapon in full auto wastes about 8 or 9 out
> of 10 shots. If you're intent on killing something, semi auto wins
> every time with a minimum of waste.
>
> I guess I'm not prepper enough, but if I have 3 boxes of ammo, that's
> on the high side. If I'm going to the range, I might get an extra
> couple of boxes, but that's about it.
>
> bp
> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>
> On 3/13/2020 5:57 AM, Lewis Bergman wrote:
>> I wonder, does buying an AR count as moronic behavior? I get the more
>> ammo thing, 10,000 rounds seems a bit much but to each his own. Don't
>> get me wrong, I have a few guns around and maybe a couple thousand
>> rounds.
>>
>> I just think back to when I was a machine gunner in the Marine Corps.
>> We had a 3 man crew for the 50 cal M2. The one guy carrying the
>> receiver carried no ammo as he was already carrying 60 pounds of
>> metal in addition to everything else he had. The other two carried
>> 100 rounds each. 200 rounds for a fully automaitc machine gun tasked
>> with the a major part of the fire power on a company level for either
>> defense or attack. In addition, the rifle platoons each carried 1 box
>> (100 rounds) per squad (13 guys) 3 squads per platoon so a total of
>> 300 rounds per platoon. 3 platoons per company. so an additional 900
>> rounds for a total of 1100 rounds standard. The company commander
>> might throw in a couple of extra boxes per platoon if we didn't have
>> to move more than 15 miles or so. So call it 2100 rounds on the
>> outside. That is for a known or intenional engagement. Nothing works
>> out like you expect so sometimes you go to kill someone and nobodies
>> home. Sometimes they aren't where you expect. Whatever. The point is
>> that you are looking for a fight and you are carrying at most 2100
>> rounds. Now, if we were lucky enough to drive around in a humvee we
>> carried about the same amount of ammo, but with us instead of spread
>> around. Closer to 1800 to 2000 rounds.
>>
>> Of course there is a supply chain and if the battle is protracted you
>> can count on resupply unless everything really goes South. I know
>> you are counting on no supply chain. But man, you are either the
>> worst shot ever, or don't plan on doing a lot of aiming or maybe a
>> lot of warning shots. In my experience, once the first guy gets shot,
>> a lot less ammo gets used by everyone after the initial panic. Seeing
>> someone get shot seems to really encourage people to hide more.
>>
>> That makes me think, it wasn't that long ago, but I would imagine
>> with all the drones equipped with heat signature equipment and the
>> like, the fog of war aint what it used to be. We used to count on
>> finding the enemy by sending people out to look for them. When you
>> heard a bunch of gunfire, you ran towards it because that meant
>> somebody found what you were lookiing for. Seems really low tech now.
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 11:05 PM Steve Jones
>> <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com <mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> I went to walmart. Morons everywhere. This is a frenzy. People
>> acting dumb, means people will shortly do dumb things. I went and
>> bought an AR and more ammo tonite. I just hope these morons stay
>> calm at least till Monday when God government let's me pick up
>> the rifle. Wife shut me down on grabbing a 20 gauge with a pistol
>> grip for the kids. What I buy tomorrow and dont tell her about is
>> a different story.
>> Was talking to the lady at walmart. The truck was outside
>> unloading into the warehouse more TP and ramen noodles. It will
>> be wash rinse and repeat every day as morons moron. They're
>> frantic. The media has people so worked up, it's like the world
>> is ending tomorrow.
>> I have kids, so I get a fat gubmint check every tax time and fill
>> my pantry with nonperishable goods on your dime. It was nice to
>> see that the canned foods we picked pretty clean, at least some
>> people do have some common sense. But doing an annual shop in the
>> middle of this nonsense is grueling. I had to cut out halfway
>> through. These people are crazy.
>> I do have my camper ready to quarantine myself. By that, I mean
>> I'm planning on sitting in my camper drinking Miller lite,
>> Jameson, and shitposting for 2 weeks
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 12, 2020, 9:54 PM Robert <i...@avantwireless.com
>> <mailto:i...@avantwireless.com>> wrote:
>>
>> The interesting part of that was that Italy was 3rd behind
>> China and S. Korea. I would love a plot of that vs.
>> Emergency beds/breathers...
>>
>> On 3/12/20 6:13 PM, Bill Prince wrote:
>>>
>>> Per Vox Media. We're number 1 (in lack of testing). So we
>>> are pretty much in the dark.
>>>
>>> The Trump administration’s slow rollout of testing for
>>> coronavirus has become something of a national scandal, and
>>> it’s easy to see why when you compare the US testing rate to
>>> that of other affected countries. South Korea stands out for
>>> its rapid rollout of extensive testing, including through
>>> innovative drive-through testing programs.
>>>
>>> Drive-through testing is being piloted in some parts of the
>>> US, like New Hampshire, but we still have a long way to go
>>> before we match South Korean and Chinese testing levels.
>>>
>>>
>>> bp
>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>>
>>> On 3/12/2020 6:06 PM, Robert wrote:
>>>> i.e. Ostrich syndrome, the US had it bad. Still has it
>>>> bad. The one bright note I saw today was the director of
>>>> the CDC getting put in a corner to commit to free testing
>>>> for C-19 for every person in the US. No need to actually
>>>> work on the actuals of it but the commitment is primary
>>>> unless someone fires him...
>>>>
>>>> On 3/12/20 9:55 AM, Bill Prince wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> IMO, I think disbanding the pandemic response team in 2018
>>>>> was not a wise decision. If they were still operating when
>>>>> this started late last year, they could/would have started
>>>>> the production of test kits based on our earliest
>>>>> knowledge of the RNA test needed to identify it. Then we
>>>>> would have had real information on the extent of the
>>>>> outbreak here. Instead, we went for weeks under the
>>>>> mistaken impression that it was not here. It was, we just
>>>>> had our heads in the sand.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> bp
>>>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 3/12/2020 9:48 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com
>>>>> <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>>>>>> I am going to do a cheap shot here and remind everyone it
>>>>>> is lent.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But before I do that, I am musing about the following:
>>>>>> But I am curious as to what more the US could have done...
>>>>>> If we dropped the ball so did many nations.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No need to reply.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *From:* Jaime Solorza
>>>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, March 12, 2020 10:44 AM
>>>>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] COVID-19 and WISPAmerica
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I agree with Carl.
>>>>>> Most of you understand math...this virus is spreading
>>>>>> exponentially...let that sink in. Our current
>>>>>> administration dropped the ball on this one. Now we are
>>>>>> suffering the consequences.
>>>>>> You can't cure ....wait for it....wait for it.....
>>>>>> ineptness.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 11, 2020, 12:35 PM Carl Peterson
>>>>>> <cpeter...@portnetworks.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Canceling or rescheduling a conference is by no means
>>>>>> "Breaking down the infrastructure of society".
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 1:27 PM Steve Jones
>>>>>> <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Breaking down the infrastructure of society over
>>>>>> fear mongering is not being a very responsible
>>>>>> member of society at all. This didnt happen
>>>>>> during swine flu, and we made it though it
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 1:19 PM Carl Peterson
>>>>>> <cpeter...@portnetworks.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "If you're concerned about getting sick, just
>>>>>> don't go."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> IMHO, it isn't about you, it is about being a
>>>>>> responsible member of society. I'm not
>>>>>> judging, or saying we are at that point, but
>>>>>> there is a point at which the responsible
>>>>>> thing to do is cancel large gatherings to
>>>>>> flatten the curve.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 1:15 PM Josh Luthman
>>>>>> <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you're concerned about getting sick,
>>>>>> just don't go.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>>>> Suite 1337
>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 1:59 PM Sean
>>>>>> Heskett <af...@zirkel.us> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I’m sorry folks but this conference
>>>>>> really should be canceled for the
>>>>>> safety of everyone.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you to Sonar For their brave
>>>>>> decision yesterday to pull out.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I know this would be a hardship for
>>>>>> WISPA’s finances so I think we should
>>>>>> all pull together to make sure WISPA
>>>>>> doesn’t suffer financially. We need
>>>>>> WISPA and our members to be healthy
>>>>>> and strong both physically and
>>>>>> financially.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2020-03-11/coronavirus-advice-from-bioethicists-cancel-that-conference
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://youtu.be/E3URhJx0NSw
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -Sean
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