I have one box for my 22 special. Not sure it even works. The ammo is
probably 30 years old.
From: Bill Prince
Sent: Friday, March 13, 2020 8:49 AM
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Subject: Re: [AFMUG] COVID-19 and WISPAmerica
In my experience, firing a weapon in full auto wastes about 8 or 9 out of 10
shots. If you're intent on killing something, semi auto wins every time with a
minimum of waste.
I guess I'm not prepper enough, but if I have 3 boxes of ammo, that's on the
high side. If I'm going to the range, I might get an extra couple of boxes, but
that's about it.
bp
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On 3/13/2020 5:57 AM, Lewis Bergman wrote:
I wonder, does buying an AR count as moronic behavior? I get the more ammo
thing, 10,000 rounds seems a bit much but to each his own. Don't get me wrong,
I have a few guns around and maybe a couple thousand rounds.
I just think back to when I was a machine gunner in the Marine Corps. We had
a 3 man crew for the 50 cal M2. The one guy carrying the receiver carried no
ammo as he was already carrying 60 pounds of metal in addition to everything
else he had. The other two carried 100 rounds each. 200 rounds for a fully
automaitc machine gun tasked with the a major part of the fire power on a
company level for either defense or attack. In addition, the rifle platoons
each carried 1 box (100 rounds) per squad (13 guys) 3 squads per platoon so a
total of 300 rounds per platoon. 3 platoons per company. so an additional 900
rounds for a total of 1100 rounds standard. The company commander might throw
in a couple of extra boxes per platoon if we didn't have to move more than 15
miles or so. So call it 2100 rounds on the outside. That is for a known or
intenional engagement. Nothing works out like you expect so sometimes you go to
kill someone and nobodies home. Sometimes they aren't where you expect.
Whatever. The point is that you are looking for a fight and you are carrying at
most 2100 rounds. Now, if we were lucky enough to drive around in a humvee we
carried about the same amount of ammo, but with us instead of spread around.
Closer to 1800 to 2000 rounds.
Of course there is a supply chain and if the battle is protracted you can
count on resupply unless everything really goes South. I know you are counting
on no supply chain. But man, you are either the worst shot ever, or don't plan
on doing a lot of aiming or maybe a lot of warning shots. In my experience,
once the first guy gets shot, a lot less ammo gets used by everyone after the
initial panic. Seeing someone get shot seems to really encourage people to hide
more.
That makes me think, it wasn't that long ago, but I would imagine with all
the drones equipped with heat signature equipment and the like, the fog of war
aint what it used to be. We used to count on finding the enemy by sending
people out to look for them. When you heard a bunch of gunfire, you ran towards
it because that meant somebody found what you were lookiing for. Seems really
low tech now.
On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 11:05 PM Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
wrote:
I went to walmart. Morons everywhere. This is a frenzy. People acting dumb,
means people will shortly do dumb things. I went and bought an AR and more ammo
tonite. I just hope these morons stay calm at least till Monday when God
government let's me pick up the rifle. Wife shut me down on grabbing a 20 gauge
with a pistol grip for the kids. What I buy tomorrow and dont tell her about is
a different story.
Was talking to the lady at walmart. The truck was outside unloading into
the warehouse more TP and ramen noodles. It will be wash rinse and repeat every
day as morons moron. They're frantic. The media has people so worked up, it's
like the world is ending tomorrow.
I have kids, so I get a fat gubmint check every tax time and fill my pantry
with nonperishable goods on your dime. It was nice to see that the canned foods
we picked pretty clean, at least some people do have some common sense. But
doing an annual shop in the middle of this nonsense is grueling. I had to cut
out halfway through. These people are crazy.
I do have my camper ready to quarantine myself. By that, I mean I'm
planning on sitting in my camper drinking Miller lite, Jameson, and shitposting
for 2 weeks
On Thu, Mar 12, 2020, 9:54 PM Robert <i...@avantwireless.com> wrote:
The interesting part of that was that Italy was 3rd behind China and S.
Korea. I would love a plot of that vs. Emergency beds/breathers...
On 3/12/20 6:13 PM, Bill Prince wrote:
Per Vox Media. We're number 1 (in lack of testing). So we are pretty
much in the dark.
The Trump administration’s slow rollout of testing for coronavirus has
become something of a national scandal, and it’s easy to see why when you
compare the US testing rate to that of other affected countries. South Korea
stands out for its rapid rollout of extensive testing, including through
innovative drive-through testing programs.
Drive-through testing is being piloted in some parts of the US, like
New Hampshire, but we still have a long way to go before we match South Korean
and Chinese testing levels.
bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
On 3/12/2020 6:06 PM, Robert wrote:
i.e. Ostrich syndrome, the US had it bad. Still has it bad. The
one bright note I saw today was the director of the CDC getting put in a corner
to commit to free testing for C-19 for every person in the US. No need to
actually work on the actuals of it but the commitment is primary unless someone
fires him...
On 3/12/20 9:55 AM, Bill Prince wrote:
IMO, I think disbanding the pandemic response team in 2018 was not
a wise decision. If they were still operating when this started late last year,
they could/would have started the production of test kits based on our earliest
knowledge of the RNA test needed to identify it. Then we would have had real
information on the extent of the outbreak here. Instead, we went for weeks
under the mistaken impression that it was not here. It was, we just had our
heads in the sand.
bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
On 3/12/2020 9:48 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
I am going to do a cheap shot here and remind everyone it is
lent.
But before I do that, I am musing about the following:
But I am curious as to what more the US could have done...
If we dropped the ball so did many nations.
No need to reply.
From: Jaime Solorza
Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2020 10:44 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] COVID-19 and WISPAmerica
I agree with Carl.
Most of you understand math...this virus is spreading
exponentially...let that sink in. Our current administration dropped the ball
on this one. Now we are suffering the consequences.
You can't cure ....wait for it....wait for it..... ineptness.
On Wed, Mar 11, 2020, 12:35 PM Carl Peterson
<cpeter...@portnetworks.com> wrote:
Canceling or rescheduling a conference is by no means "Breaking
down the infrastructure of society".
On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 1:27 PM Steve Jones
<thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
Breaking down the infrastructure of society over fear
mongering is not being a very responsible member of society at all. This didnt
happen during swine flu, and we made it though it
On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 1:19 PM Carl Peterson
<cpeter...@portnetworks.com> wrote:
"If you're concerned about getting sick, just don't go."
IMHO, it isn't about you, it is about being a responsible
member of society. I'm not judging, or saying we are at that point, but there
is a point at which the responsible thing to do is cancel large gatherings to
flatten the curve.
On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 1:15 PM Josh Luthman
<j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
If you're concerned about getting sick, just don't go.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 1:59 PM Sean Heskett
<af...@zirkel.us> wrote:
I’m sorry folks but this conference really should be
canceled for the safety of everyone.
Thank you to Sonar For their brave decision yesterday
to pull out.
I know this would be a hardship for WISPA’s finances so
I think we should all pull together to make sure WISPA doesn’t suffer
financially. We need WISPA and our members to be healthy and strong both
physically and financially.
https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2020-03-11/coronavirus-advice-from-bioethicists-cancel-that-conference
https://youtu.be/E3URhJx0NSw
Best regards,
-Sean
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