Depends on the rounds. For awhile I was stuck with an M249 (I was
aviation so that was an extra crap assignment vs a 9 mil or M16) and
we carried 800 rounds. Same 5.56 as an M16, just on a belt in a
cartridge.
And yes, stocking up on ammunition is moronic behavior. Spend the
money on some extra dry goods you could share with your neighbors in
the event that they need help. WWJD
On Fri, Mar 13, 2020 at 7:58 AM Lewis Bergman
<lewis.berg...@gmail.com <mailto:lewis.berg...@gmail.com>> wrote:
I wonder, does buying an AR count as moronic behavior? I get the
more ammo thing, 10,000 rounds seems a bit much but to each his
own. Don't get me wrong, I have a few guns around and maybe a
couple thousand rounds.
I just think back to when I was a machine gunner in the Marine
Corps. We had a 3 man crew for the 50 cal M2. The one guy
carrying the receiver carried no ammo as he was already carrying
60 pounds of metal in addition to everything else he had. The
other two carried 100 rounds each. 200 rounds for a fully
automaitc machine gun tasked with the a major part of the fire
power on a company level for either defense or attack. In
addition, the rifle platoons each carried 1 box (100 rounds) per
squad (13 guys) 3 squads per platoon so a total of 300 rounds per
platoon. 3 platoons per company. so an additional 900 rounds for
a total of 1100 rounds standard. The company commander might
throw in a couple of extra boxes per platoon if we didn't have to
move more than 15 miles or so. So call it 2100 rounds on the
outside. That is for a known or intenional engagement. Nothing
works out like you expect so sometimes you go to kill someone and
nobodies home. Sometimes they aren't where you expect. Whatever.
The point is that you are looking for a fight and you are
carrying at most 2100 rounds. Now, if we were lucky enough to
drive around in a humvee we carried about the same amount of
ammo, but with us instead of spread around. Closer to 1800 to
2000 rounds.
Of course there is a supply chain and if the battle is protracted
you can count on resupply unless everything really goes South. I
know you are counting on no supply chain. But man, you are either
the worst shot ever, or don't plan on doing a lot of aiming or
maybe a lot of warning shots. In my experience, once the first
guy gets shot, a lot less ammo gets used by everyone after the
initial panic. Seeing someone get shot seems to really encourage
people to hide more.
That makes me think, it wasn't that long ago, but I would imagine
with all the drones equipped with heat signature equipment and
the like, the fog of war aint what it used to be. We used to
count on finding the enemy by sending people out to look for
them. When you heard a bunch of gunfire, you ran towards it
because that meant somebody found what you were lookiing for.
Seems really low tech now.
On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 11:05 PM Steve Jones
<thatoneguyst...@gmail.com <mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>> wrote:
I went to walmart. Morons everywhere. This is a frenzy.
People acting dumb, means people will shortly do dumb things.
I went and bought an AR and more ammo tonite. I just hope
these morons stay calm at least till Monday when God
government let's me pick up the rifle. Wife shut me down on
grabbing a 20 gauge with a pistol grip for the kids. What I
buy tomorrow and dont tell her about is a different story.
Was talking to the lady at walmart. The truck was outside
unloading into the warehouse more TP and ramen noodles. It
will be wash rinse and repeat every day as morons moron.
They're frantic. The media has people so worked up, it's like
the world is ending tomorrow.
I have kids, so I get a fat gubmint check every tax time and
fill my pantry with nonperishable goods on your dime. It was
nice to see that the canned foods we picked pretty clean, at
least some people do have some common sense. But doing an
annual shop in the middle of this nonsense is grueling. I had
to cut out halfway through. These people are crazy.
I do have my camper ready to quarantine myself. By that, I
mean I'm planning on sitting in my camper drinking Miller
lite, Jameson, and shitposting for 2 weeks
On Thu, Mar 12, 2020, 9:54 PM Robert <i...@avantwireless.com
<mailto:i...@avantwireless.com>> wrote:
The interesting part of that was that Italy was 3rd
behind China and S. Korea. I would love a plot of that
vs. Emergency beds/breathers...
On 3/12/20 6:13 PM, Bill Prince wrote:
Per Vox Media. We're number 1 (in lack of testing). So
we are pretty much in the dark.
The Trump administration’s slow rollout of testing for
coronavirus has become something of a national scandal,
and it’s easy to see why when you compare the US testing
rate to that of other affected countries. South Korea
stands out for its rapid rollout of extensive testing,
including through innovative drive-through testing programs.
Drive-through testing is being piloted in some parts of
the US, like New Hampshire, but we still have a long way
to go before we match South Korean and Chinese testing
levels.
bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
On 3/12/2020 6:06 PM, Robert wrote:
i.e. Ostrich syndrome, the US had it bad. Still has
it bad. The one bright note I saw today was the
director of the CDC getting put in a corner to commit
to free testing for C-19 for every person in the US.
No need to actually work on the actuals of it but the
commitment is primary unless someone fires him...
On 3/12/20 9:55 AM, Bill Prince wrote:
IMO, I think disbanding the pandemic response team in
2018 was not a wise decision. If they were still
operating when this started late last year, they
could/would have started the production of test kits
based on our earliest knowledge of the RNA test needed
to identify it. Then we would have had real
information on the extent of the outbreak here.
Instead, we went for weeks under the mistaken
impression that it was not here. It was, we just had
our heads in the sand.
bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
On 3/12/2020 9:48 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com
<mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
I am going to do a cheap shot here and remind
everyone it is lent.
But before I do that, I am musing about the following:
But I am curious as to what more the US could have
done...
If we dropped the ball so did many nations.
No need to reply.
*From:* Jaime Solorza
*Sent:* Thursday, March 12, 2020 10:44 AM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] COVID-19 and WISPAmerica
I agree with Carl.
Most of you understand math...this virus is spreading
exponentially...let that sink in. Our current
administration dropped the ball on this one. Now we
are suffering the consequences.
You can't cure ....wait for it....wait for it.....
ineptness.
On Wed, Mar 11, 2020, 12:35 PM Carl Peterson
<cpeter...@portnetworks.com> wrote:
Canceling or rescheduling a conference is by no
means "Breaking down the infrastructure of society".
On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 1:27 PM Steve Jones
<thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
Breaking down the infrastructure of society
over fear mongering is not being a very
responsible member of society at all. This
didnt happen during swine flu, and we made it
though it
On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 1:19 PM Carl Peterson
<cpeter...@portnetworks.com> wrote:
"If you're concerned about getting sick,
just don't go."
IMHO, it isn't about you, it is about
being a responsible member of society.
I'm not judging, or saying we are at that
point, but there is a point at which the
responsible thing to do is cancel large
gatherings to flatten the curve.
On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 1:15 PM Josh
Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
If you're concerned about getting
sick, just don't go.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 1:59 PM Sean
Heskett <af...@zirkel.us> wrote:
I’m sorry folks but this
conference really should be
canceled for the safety of everyone.
Thank you to Sonar For their
brave decision yesterday to pull out.
I know this would be a hardship
for WISPA’s finances so I think
we should all pull together to
make sure WISPA doesn’t suffer
financially. We need WISPA and
our members to be healthy and
strong both physically and
financially.
https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2020-03-11/coronavirus-advice-from-bioethicists-cancel-that-conference
https://youtu.be/E3URhJx0NSw
Best regards,
-Sean
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