You’d need to dedicate an employee to go with them and identify all the 
equipment, log into it, etc.  And then you’d have to decide if you want to 
audit all the bullshit paperwork stuff like did someone affix new FCC labels to 
Ubiquiti equipment after a firmware update or just stick the labels in a drawer.

 

I suspect you’d accomplish the same thing if some company supplied a checklist 
for your employees to go through.

 

Or had a meeting with you in a conference room to review your own procedures 
and clear up misconceptions about what is required, without actually giving 
your network a colonoscopy.

 

 

From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Mathew Howard
Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2020 10:20 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 3.65 NN License Expiry

 

It seems to me, that just about anybody with the proper knowledge could start a 
service like that... you'd basically just have to be willing/able to take on 
the liability for any FCC fines that somebody got on a system that you 
certified.

 

One downside to the FCC doing it, is that I think a lot of people would be 
hesitant to invite the FCC to look at their stuff. WISPA could certainly do it 
though... heck, they could make it a requirement for membership and clean up 
the whole industry a lot.

 

On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 9:47 AM Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com 
<mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> > wrote:

I always wished the FCC, or better yet, WISPA would offer a network audit 
service. Just to come in and verify compliance. Tier one is just looking at 
your configs, doesnt cost a huge amount, tier 2 they actually do EIRP 
verification and all that in the field for a bigger price. Id rather pay some 
outfit a couple grand than the FCC a whole lot more. I know the FCC normally 
issues a cease order before a fine if you have an honest mistake, but at some 
point it will just be a fine. People in the past have said "I can take a look", 
thats all fine and good, so can I. But can you certify it?

 

On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 9:41 AM Mark Radabaugh <m...@amplex.net 
<mailto:m...@amplex.net> > wrote:

It 10/24/2022 is what your license says then yes, that is correct.

 

Mark





On Feb 26, 2020, at 10:37 AM, Chris Fabien <ch...@lakenetmi.com 
<mailto:ch...@lakenetmi.com> > wrote:

 

So sounds like consensus is we can continue to operate under the NN license 
until 10/24/2022? 

I do have these AP locations registered and will double check power is within 
limits. 

Thanks

Chris

 

On Wed, Feb 26, 2020, 10:32 AM Mark Radabaugh <m...@amplex.net 
<mailto:m...@amplex.net> > wrote:

I would very much second that statement - make sure you are following all the 
rules for 90z going forward.

 

Mark





On Feb 26, 2020, at 10:25 AM, Mathew Howard <mhoward...@gmail.com 
<mailto:mhoward...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Yeah, but tricky part is going to be stuff that's still operating legally under 
an unexpired license that the SAS can't manage. I think it would be wise to 
make sure everything is properly registered and you're not doing anything 
questionable if you plan to keep operating under the old rules much beyond 
April.

 

On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 9:17 AM Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com 
<mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> > wrote:

I was told when I asked about examples being made that hopefully SAS will sort 
things out on its own. If it goes outside of SAS being able to manage an issue, 
such all illegal operators, particularly when more sensing capability comes 
into play with SAS 2.0, you do not want to be the guy who gets nailed. 
Apparently this iteration of the SAS modality is an entry run for a much larger 
spectrum management, as is the cowboy days are over moving forward

 

On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 8:54 AM Mathew Howard <mhoward...@gmail.com 
<mailto:mhoward...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Yeah, I agree, they probably will make an example out of a few operators. But I 
don't see any reason why they'd bother with somebody who still has a valid 
license. They'll probably go after some guys that are blatantly running some 
old Ubiquiti or WiMax gear after their license expires.

 

On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 6:56 AM Mark Radabaugh <m...@amplex.net 
<mailto:m...@amplex.net> > wrote:


> On Feb 25, 2020, at 5:20 PM, Mathew Howard <mhoward...@gmail.com 
> <mailto:mhoward...@gmail.com> > wrote:
> 
> <cut>

> I would assume that if a CBRS operator puts up gear that you're interfering 
> with, it's going to be handled pretty much the same way it was under the old 
> rules (in other words, work it out with eachother, or shut up and live with 
> it)... there's a reason that they made 3650-3700 GAA only.
> 

I would expect the FCC to make an example of a couple of operators who continue 
to operate 90z equipment illegally after the license expires.   We all have too 
much to lose here if the operators are not running legally and the mobile 
industry starts another attempt to push everyone out that isn’t a mobile 
carrier.

Mark


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