Good to hear. For all the complaints about our healthcare system, the US is still probably the best place to be in cases like this
On Mon, Feb 17, 2020, 6:23 PM Robert Andrews <i...@avantwireless.com> wrote: > The canary is ok at this time... > > On 02/17/2020 03:45 PM, Robert Andrews wrote: > > The pathology that I had seen talked about it causing heart damage > > actually. The second infection triggers fatal heart reactions ( not an > > attack ) from the by products introduced in the first infection. > > > > On 02/17/2020 03:06 PM, Matt Hoppes wrote: > >> I have seen that as well... suspecting that the lungs get damaged the > >> first time and then it's all over the second time. > >> > >> I'm not sure what you do about that? > >> > >> This could explain *tin foil hat* why China is going so crazy with > >> this. Suppose for a moment that the virus was out in October or so, > >> and a first wave went around. IF this was a manufactured virus and > >> China knows what it does, then when it started going around the second > >> time they knew what the outcome would be if it wasn't stopped. > >> > >> On 2/17/20 6:02 PM, Robert wrote: > >>> Haven't asked since last time, I'll text... Kinda figured with > >>> another 40 coming stateside from the cruise ship the gig is up... > >>> There is speculation that immunity is not a given after getting > >>> corona-fu and the second time you get it is what is causing the > >>> deaths... That would be very bad. > >>> > >>> On 2/17/20 1:22 PM, Steve Jones wrote: > >>>> whats the canary status? > >>>> > >>>> On Tue, Feb 11, 2020 at 11:28 PM Robert <i...@avantwireless.com > >>>> <mailto:i...@avantwireless.com>> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Seems to be getting better, but we are standing by. Other cases ( > >>>> the couple who were transferred to SF Med center for example ) > >>>> they were getting better and then abruptly took a turn much for > >>>> the worse. But we have our fingers crossed for him. > >>>> > >>>> On 2/11/20 6:59 PM, Steve Jones wrote: > >>>>> Who was it that had the pilot canary? What is their status > >>>>> > >>>>> On Tue, Feb 11, 2020, 12:33 AM Timothy Steele > >>>>> <timothy.pct...@gmail.com <mailto:timothy.pct...@gmail.com>> > >>>>> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> Spread through the air is fake news > >>>>> > >>>>> You need a projectile to hit you or touch the projectile > >>>>> > >>>>> If you have good hygiene and sanitize your hands often you > >>>>> should be okay > >>>>> > >>>>> They are doing research if it can spread by feces but are not > >>>>> sure > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> There is a 14 day incubation process so they are checking you > >>>>> temp but also keeping an eye on you if you are coughing or > >>>>> spiting or showing any other symptoms > >>>>> > >>>>> For a virus to spread you normally need to have at least a > >>>>> slight fever no one knows if that is fake news from China > >>>>> or not > >>>>> > >>>>> Because it's so hot here if you had a slight fever you would > >>>>> never notice it unless someone told you > >>>>> > >>>>> I think people saying you can get it through the air came > >>>>> from a nurse got infected through her eyes when she was > >>>>> wearing a mask > >>>>> > >>>>> But she was hit by a projectile by someone infected directly > >>>>> > >>>>> It was not just in the air > >>>>> > >>>>> On Tue, Feb 11, 2020, 1:22 PM Robert <i...@avantwireless.com > >>>>> <mailto:i...@avantwireless.com>> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> Anti-vaxers in CN pretty much are a non-issue.. > >>>>> > >>>>> On 2/10/20 7:36 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: > >>>>> > China is actually doing a better job against measles > >>>>> than the United States. We have become complacent. > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > https://www.forbes.com/sites/leahrosenbaum/2019/12/27/how-china-is-winning-the-war-against-measles > >>>>> > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > -----Original Message----- > >>>>> > From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com > >>>>> <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> On Behalf Of Matt > Hoppes > >>>>> > Sent: Monday, February 10, 2020 9:13 PM > >>>>> > To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com > >>>>> <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>; Timothy Steele > >>>>> <timothy.pct...@gmail.com > >>>>> <mailto:timothy.pct...@gmail.com>> > >>>>> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT stock) > >>>>> > > >>>>> > Hi Timothy! > >>>>> > > >>>>> > I keep hearing about this happening (temperature > >>>>> taking). Since the > >>>>> > person can be contagious but a-symptomatic for up to 14 > >>>>> days before symptoms occur, I keep wondering what exactly > >>>>> this is doing other than stopping the folks who are most > >>>>> seriously sick. > >>>>> > > >>>>> > Is this really just another flu strain though? It's a > >>>>> corona virus, but so is the common cold -- that doesn't > >>>>> mean they are all the flu. > >>>>> > > >>>>> > Now I hear this thing can be spread through the air > >>>>> (not just droplets), which means the spread distance from > >>>>> an infected person is much greater than the common > >>>>> cold/flu. > >>>>> > > >>>>> > This is certainly some of the better news I've heard > >>>>> lately. > >>>>> > > >>>>> > On 2/10/20 9:55 PM, Timothy Steele wrote: > >>>>> >> I'm living in asia right now (philippines) > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> they are going to extremes to contain the virus no you > >>>>> can't believe > >>>>> >> what china is saying but I do believe what I'm seeing > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> we just took a vacation to cebu for our anniversary > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> when you go to the airport they check your temperature > >>>>> even for > >>>>> >> domestic before you get to the terminal and check > >>>>> again before you get > >>>>> >> on the flight > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> resorts and hotels have to check your temperature > >>>>> before they let you > >>>>> >> walk in even if just to eat inside > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> if you want to go into a bigger crowded areas like > >>>>> whale watching you > >>>>> >> have to get all you vitals checked and get stamped > >>>>> that you don't have > >>>>> >> the virus > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> in bohol nurses are getting infected > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> U.S citizens in china post on social media of police > >>>>> installing metal > >>>>> >> bars on doors of anyone's home that refuse to > >>>>> quarantine at the > >>>>> >> hospital > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> as I'm a foreigner I'm not allowed to fly in or out > >>>>> any part of china > >>>>> >> hong kong or taiwan until the virus travel ban is over > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> I don't mean to scare anyone just sharing truths I'm > >>>>> not that scared > >>>>> >> of the virus as its just a new strain of the flu and > >>>>> I'm still young > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> if I was older I would be scared as a flu shot will > >>>>> not help you with > >>>>> >> this yet and the is a mask shortage so your own doctor > >>>>> or nurse and > >>>>> >> infect you > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> in the U.S though there are so few that have it and > >>>>> hospital resources > >>>>> >> are so high there is nothing to really worry about > >>>>> there > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> but in asia where good hospitals are hard to find most > >>>>> houses don't > >>>>> >> have proper showers nurses are out of masks its > >>>>> standard for kids to > >>>>> >> live with grandparents that can easily get sick and > >>>>> the flu is not > >>>>> >> common here as its always hot so the immune system is > >>>>> not really ready > >>>>> >> for it > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> it is a very scary virus in asia but I don't see it > >>>>> being much of an > >>>>> >> issue in the U.S > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> On Tue, Feb 11, 2020 at 10:32 AM Mathew Howard > >>>>> <mhoward...@gmail.com <mailto:mhoward...@gmail.com> > >>>>> >> <mailto:mhoward...@gmail.com > >>>>> <mailto:mhoward...@gmail.com>>> wrote: > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> Oh, that's probably just a delicious snack! Kind > >>>>> of like beef jerky, > >>>>> >> only... different. > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> On Mon, Feb 10, 2020, 7:22 PM Ken Hohhof > >>>>> <af...@kwisp.com <mailto:af...@kwisp.com> > >>>>> >> <mailto:af...@kwisp.com > >>>>> <mailto:af...@kwisp.com>>> wrote: > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> That looks like an actual product they bought > >>>>> in China, as > >>>>> >> opposed to what I expected from the > >>>>> headline. Still > >>>>> >> creepy.____ > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> __ __ > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com > >>>>> <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> > >>>>> >> <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com > >>>>> <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>>> *On Behalf Of *Steve > >>>>> Jones > >>>>> >> *Sent:* Monday, February 10, 2020 7:03 PM > >>>>> >> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > >>>>> <af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com> > >>>>> >> <mailto:af@af.afmug.com > >>>>> <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>> > >>>>> >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was > >>>>> UBNT stock)____ > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> __ __ > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> This is concerning > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> > https://breaking911.com/cbp-officers-at-va-airport-intercept-dead-bird > >>>>> >> s-in-passenger-baggage-from-china/____ > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> __ __ > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> On Mon, Feb 10, 2020, 1:00 PM Shayne Lebrun > >>>>> >> <sleb...@corebroadband.ca > >>>>> <mailto:sleb...@corebroadband.ca> > >>>>> <mailto:sleb...@corebroadband.ca > >>>>> <mailto:sleb...@corebroadband.ca>>> > >>>>> >> wrote:____ > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> A 'cynic' is what an optimist calls a > >>>>> realist. > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> -----Original Message----- > >>>>> >> From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com > >>>>> <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> > >>>>> >> <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com > >>>>> <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>>] On Behalf Of Adam > >>>>> Moffett > >>>>> >> Sent: Monday, February 10, 2020 1:33 PM > >>>>> >> To: af@af.afmug.com > >>>>> <mailto:af@af.afmug.com> <mailto:af@af.afmug.com > >>>>> <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>> > >>>>> >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was > >>>>> UBNT stock) > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> I used to think I was a cynic. Some > >>>>> people are an order of > >>>>> >> magnitude > >>>>> >> more cynical than me. > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> On 2/10/2020 12:59 PM, Chuck McCown > wrote: > >>>>> >> > I am naturally an optimist and not a > >>>>> cynic. So I > >>>>> >> essentially ignore all that stuff. Life > >>>>> is too short. > >>>>> >> > > >>>>> >> > Sent from my iPhone > >>>>> >> > > >>>>> >> >> On Feb 10, 2020, at 9:26 AM, Adam > >>>>> Moffett > >>>>> >> <dmmoff...@gmail.com > >>>>> <mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com> <mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com > >>>>> <mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com>>> wrote: > >>>>> >> >> > >>>>> >> >> The thing driving me nuts right now > >>>>> is that literally > >>>>> >> everything is a "conspiracy". > >>>>> >> >> > >>>>> >> >> Sometimes stuff happens, nobody did > >>>>> it on purpose, and > >>>>> >> nobody has the whole picture of what > >>>>> happened until more > >>>>> >> time passes. In the interim there's a > >>>>> lot of conflicting > >>>>> >> information going around. People latch > >>>>> onto early bits of > >>>>> >> information that turn out to be wrong and > >>>>> they won't let go > >>>>> >> of them. > >>>>> >> >> > >>>>> >> >> Coronavirus was created by the > >>>>> Chinese to distract press > >>>>> >> from Hong Kong > >>>>> >> >> > >>>>> >> >> Coronavirus was created by the USA to > >>>>> defeat China in a > >>>>> >> trade war > >>>>> >> >> > >>>>> >> >> Coronavirus was created by Budweiser > >>>>> to discredit > >>>>> >> Mexican Lager (I mean that one's > >>>>> obviously a joke.....right?) > >>>>> >> >> > >>>>> >> >> Coronavirus will kill us all and we > >>>>> must all stock our > >>>>> >> survival bunkers. > >>>>> >> >> > >>>>> >> >> China is hiding all the information > >>>>> about Coronavirus. > >>>>> >> Really? Or maybe they just don't have a > >>>>> live real-time > >>>>> >> omniscient feed of all information so > >>>>> they're reporting what > >>>>> >> they think is true at the time it's said, > >>>>> or maybe rumors on > >>>>> >> Facebook aren't all true. > >>>>> >> >> > >>>>> >> >> See Hanlon's Razor and Occam's Razor. > >>>>> >> >> > >>>>> >> >> > >>>>> >> >> > >>>>> >> >>> On 2/10/2020 11:03 AM, Bill Prince > >>>>> wrote: > >>>>> >> >>> Starting a new thread to make this > >>>>> discussion off topic. > >>>>> >> >>> > >>>>> >> >>> I had my flu shot BTW. No fever > here. > >>>>> >> >>> > >>>>> >> >>> Still zero reported deaths in the > >>>>> US, and only about a > >>>>> >> dozen actual infections. I am still > >>>>> thinking this is not a > >>>>> >> big deal. 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