As a terror weapon it would be perfect
On Sat, Feb 22, 2020, 8:11 PM Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Kill rate is far too low to be considered a bio-weapon. Kill rate needs to
> be over 30%.
>
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> On 2/22/2020 3:04 PM, Steve Jones wrote:
>
> Remember the tail end of ebola.. they were trying to say that too, saing
> itay be transmittable by sex for 6 months blah blah blah.
> South koreas outbreak comcerns me, thats a religious group, which means a
> lot of proximity to each other and well dispersed amongst the population.
> Churches would be ideal places to unleash bioweapons, gets people from all
> walks of life congregated and better for spread.
> There mad a medical at the trump rally yesterday. I was thinking thats a
> perfect place to contaminate, people show up 2 to 3 days early from all
> over the country and comingle then disperse everywhere into every caste and
> all types of neighborhoods and employers
>
> On Sat, Feb 22, 2020, 12:33 PM Robert <i...@avantwireless.com> wrote:
>
>> And latest from China is that people "cured" may still spread infection,
>> but there is a good chance that the results may be from bad testing that
>> they are "cured"...
>>
>> On 2/22/20 10:09 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
>>
>> CDC briefing from yesterday:
>>
>>
>> https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2020/t0221-cdc-telebriefing-covid-19.html
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On
>> Behalf Of *Steve Jones
>> *Sent:* Monday, February 17, 2020 9:56 PM
>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
>> <af@af.afmug.com>
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT stock)
>>
>>
>>
>> Good to hear.
>>
>> For all the complaints about our healthcare system, the US is still
>> probably the best place to be in cases like this
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 17, 2020, 6:23 PM Robert Andrews <i...@avantwireless.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> The canary is ok at this time...
>>
>> On 02/17/2020 03:45 PM, Robert Andrews wrote:
>> > The pathology that I had seen talked about it causing heart damage
>> > actually. The second infection triggers fatal heart reactions ( not
>> an
>> > attack ) from the by products introduced in the first infection.
>> >
>> > On 02/17/2020 03:06 PM, Matt Hoppes wrote:
>> >> I have seen that as well... suspecting that the lungs get damaged the
>> >> first time and then it's all over the second time.
>> >>
>> >> I'm not sure what you do about that?
>> >>
>> >> This could explain *tin foil hat* why China is going so crazy with
>> >> this. Suppose for a moment that the virus was out in October or so,
>> >> and a first wave went around. IF this was a manufactured virus and
>> >> China knows what it does, then when it started going around the second
>> >> time they knew what the outcome would be if it wasn't stopped.
>> >>
>> >> On 2/17/20 6:02 PM, Robert wrote:
>> >>> Haven't asked since last time, I'll text... Kinda figured with
>> >>> another 40 coming stateside from the cruise ship the gig is up...
>> >>> There is speculation that immunity is not a given after getting
>> >>> corona-fu and the second time you get it is what is causing the
>> >>> deaths... That would be very bad.
>> >>>
>> >>> On 2/17/20 1:22 PM, Steve Jones wrote:
>> >>>> whats the canary status?
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On Tue, Feb 11, 2020 at 11:28 PM Robert <i...@avantwireless.com
>> >>>> <mailto:i...@avantwireless.com>> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Seems to be getting better, but we are standing by. Other cases (
>> >>>> the couple who were transferred to SF Med center for example )
>> >>>> they were getting better and then abruptly took a turn much for
>> >>>> the worse. But we have our fingers crossed for him.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On 2/11/20 6:59 PM, Steve Jones wrote:
>> >>>>> Who was it that had the pilot canary? What is their status
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> On Tue, Feb 11, 2020, 12:33 AM Timothy Steele
>> >>>>> <timothy.pct...@gmail.com <mailto:timothy.pct...@gmail.com>>
>> >>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Spread through the air is fake news
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> You need a projectile to hit you or touch the projectile
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> If you have good hygiene and sanitize your hands often you
>> >>>>> should be okay
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> They are doing research if it can spread by feces but are
>> not
>> >>>>> sure
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> There is a 14 day incubation process so they are checking
>> you
>> >>>>> temp but also keeping an eye on you if you are coughing or
>> >>>>> spiting or showing any other symptoms
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> For a virus to spread you normally need to have at least a
>> >>>>> slight fever no one knows if that is fake news from China
>> >>>>> or not
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Because it's so hot here if you had a slight fever you would
>> >>>>> never notice it unless someone told you
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> I think people saying you can get it through the air came
>> >>>>> from a nurse got infected through her eyes when she was
>> >>>>> wearing a mask
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> But she was hit by a projectile by someone infected
>> directly
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> It was not just in the air
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> On Tue, Feb 11, 2020, 1:22 PM Robert <
>> i...@avantwireless.com
>> >>>>> <mailto:i...@avantwireless.com>> wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Anti-vaxers in CN pretty much are a non-issue..
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> On 2/10/20 7:36 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
>> >>>>> > China is actually doing a better job against measles
>> >>>>> than the United States. We have become complacent.
>> >>>>> >
>> >>>>> >
>> >>>>>
>> https://www.forbes.com/sites/leahrosenbaum/2019/12/27/how-china-is-winning-the-war-against-measles
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> >
>> >>>>> >
>> >>>>> >
>> >>>>> > -----Original Message-----
>> >>>>> > From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com
>> >>>>> <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> On Behalf Of Matt
>> Hoppes
>> >>>>> > Sent: Monday, February 10, 2020 9:13 PM
>> >>>>> > To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com
>> >>>>> <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>; Timothy Steele
>> >>>>> <timothy.pct...@gmail.com
>> >>>>> <mailto:timothy.pct...@gmail.com>>
>> >>>>> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT stock)
>> >>>>> >
>> >>>>> > Hi Timothy!
>> >>>>> >
>> >>>>> > I keep hearing about this happening (temperature
>> >>>>> taking). Since the
>> >>>>> > person can be contagious but a-symptomatic for up to
>> 14
>> >>>>> days before symptoms occur, I keep wondering what
>> exactly
>> >>>>> this is doing other than stopping the folks who are most
>> >>>>> seriously sick.
>> >>>>> >
>> >>>>> > Is this really just another flu strain though? It's a
>> >>>>> corona virus, but so is the common cold -- that doesn't
>> >>>>> mean they are all the flu.
>> >>>>> >
>> >>>>> > Now I hear this thing can be spread through the air
>> >>>>> (not just droplets), which means the spread distance
>> from
>> >>>>> an infected person is much greater than the common
>> >>>>> cold/flu.
>> >>>>> >
>> >>>>> > This is certainly some of the better news I've heard
>> >>>>> lately.
>> >>>>> >
>> >>>>> > On 2/10/20 9:55 PM, Timothy Steele wrote:
>> >>>>> >> I'm living in asia right now (philippines)
>> >>>>> >>
>> >>>>> >> they are going to extremes to contain the virus no
>> you
>> >>>>> can't believe
>> >>>>> >> what china is saying but I do believe what I'm seeing
>> >>>>> >>
>> >>>>> >> we just took a vacation to cebu for our anniversary
>> >>>>> >>
>> >>>>> >> when you go to the airport they check your
>> temperature
>> >>>>> even for
>> >>>>> >> domestic before you get to the terminal and check
>> >>>>> again before you get
>> >>>>> >> on the flight
>> >>>>> >>
>> >>>>> >> resorts and hotels have to check your temperature
>> >>>>> before they let you
>> >>>>> >> walk in even if just to eat inside
>> >>>>> >>
>> >>>>> >> if you want to go into a bigger crowded areas like
>> >>>>> whale watching you
>> >>>>> >> have to get all you vitals checked and get stamped
>> >>>>> that you don't have
>> >>>>> >> the virus
>> >>>>> >>
>> >>>>> >> in bohol nurses are getting infected
>> >>>>> >>
>> >>>>> >> U.S citizens in china post on social media of police
>> >>>>> installing metal
>> >>>>> >> bars on doors of anyone's home that refuse to
>> >>>>> quarantine at the
>> >>>>> >> hospital
>> >>>>> >>
>> >>>>> >> as I'm a foreigner I'm not allowed to fly in or out
>> >>>>> any part of china
>> >>>>> >> hong kong or taiwan until the virus travel ban is
>> over
>> >>>>> >>
>> >>>>> >>
>> >>>>> >> I don't mean to scare anyone just sharing truths I'm
>> >>>>> not that scared
>> >>>>> >> of the virus as its just a new strain of the flu and
>> >>>>> I'm still young
>> >>>>> >>
>> >>>>> >> if I was older I would be scared as a flu shot will
>> >>>>> not help you with
>> >>>>> >> this yet and the is a mask shortage so your own
>> doctor
>> >>>>> or nurse and
>> >>>>> >> infect you
>> >>>>> >>
>> >>>>> >> in the U.S though there are so few that have it and
>> >>>>> hospital resources
>> >>>>> >> are so high there is nothing to really worry about
>> >>>>> there
>> >>>>> >>
>> >>>>> >>
>> >>>>> >> but in asia where good hospitals are hard to find
>> most
>> >>>>> houses don't
>> >>>>> >> have proper showers nurses are out of masks its
>> >>>>> standard for kids to
>> >>>>> >> live with grandparents that can easily get sick and
>> >>>>> the flu is not
>> >>>>> >> common here as its always hot so the immune system is
>> >>>>> not really ready
>> >>>>> >> for it
>> >>>>> >>
>> >>>>> >> it is a very scary virus in asia but I don't see it
>> >>>>> being much of an
>> >>>>> >> issue in the U.S
>> >>>>> >>
>> >>>>> >> On Tue, Feb 11, 2020 at 10:32 AM Mathew Howard
>> >>>>> <mhoward...@gmail.com <mailto:mhoward...@gmail.com>
>> >>>>> >> <mailto:mhoward...@gmail.com
>> >>>>> <mailto:mhoward...@gmail.com>>> wrote:
>> >>>>> >>
>> >>>>> >> Oh, that's probably just a delicious snack! Kind
>> >>>>> of like beef jerky,
>> >>>>> >> only... different.
>> >>>>> >>
>> >>>>> >> On Mon, Feb 10, 2020, 7:22 PM Ken Hohhof
>> >>>>> <af...@kwisp.com <mailto:af...@kwisp.com>
>> >>>>> >> <mailto:af...@kwisp.com
>> >>>>> <mailto:af...@kwisp.com>>> wrote:
>> >>>>> >>
>> >>>>> >> That looks like an actual product they
>> bought
>> >>>>> in China, as
>> >>>>> >> opposed to what I expected from the
>> >>>>> headline. Still
>> >>>>> >> creepy.____
>> >>>>> >>
>> >>>>> >> __ __
>> >>>>> >>
>> >>>>> >> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com
>> >>>>> <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>
>> >>>>> >> <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com
>> >>>>> <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>>> *On Behalf Of
>> *Steve
>> >>>>> Jones
>> >>>>> >> *Sent:* Monday, February 10, 2020 7:03 PM
>> >>>>> >> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>> >>>>> <af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>
>> >>>>> >> <mailto:af@af.afmug.com
>> >>>>> <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>>
>> >>>>> >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was
>> >>>>> UBNT stock)____
>> >>>>> >>
>> >>>>> >> __ __
>> >>>>> >>
>> >>>>> >> This is concerning
>> >>>>> >>
>> >>>>> >>
>> >>>>>
>> https://breaking911.com/cbp-officers-at-va-airport-intercept-dead-bird
>> >>>>> >> s-in-passenger-baggage-from-china/____
>> >>>>> >>
>> >>>>> >> __ __
>> >>>>> >>
>> >>>>> >> On Mon, Feb 10, 2020, 1:00 PM Shayne Lebrun
>> >>>>> >> <sleb...@corebroadband.ca
>> >>>>> <mailto:sleb...@corebroadband.ca>
>> >>>>> <mailto:sleb...@corebroadband.ca
>> >>>>> <mailto:sleb...@corebroadband.ca>>>
>> >>>>> >> wrote:____
>> >>>>> >>
>> >>>>> >> A 'cynic' is what an optimist calls a
>> >>>>> realist.
>> >>>>> >>
>> >>>>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >>>>> >> From: AF [mailto:
>> af-boun...@af.afmug.com
>> >>>>> <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>
>> >>>>> >> <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com
>> >>>>> <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>>] On Behalf Of Adam
>> >>>>> Moffett
>> >>>>> >> Sent: Monday, February 10, 2020 1:33 PM
>> >>>>> >> To: af@af.afmug.com
>> >>>>> <mailto:af@af.afmug.com> <mailto:af@af.afmug.com
>> >>>>> <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
>> >>>>> >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was
>> >>>>> UBNT stock)
>> >>>>> >>
>> >>>>> >> I used to think I was a cynic. Some
>> >>>>> people are an order of
>> >>>>> >> magnitude
>> >>>>> >> more cynical than me.
>> >>>>> >>
>> >>>>> >>
>> >>>>> >> On 2/10/2020 12:59 PM, Chuck McCown
>> wrote:
>> >>>>> >> > I am naturally an optimist and not a
>> >>>>> cynic. So I
>> >>>>> >> essentially ignore all that stuff. Life
>> >>>>> is too short.
>> >>>>> >> >
>> >>>>> >> > Sent from my iPhone
>> >>>>> >> >
>> >>>>> >> >> On Feb 10, 2020, at 9:26 AM, Adam
>> >>>>> Moffett
>> >>>>> >> <dmmoff...@gmail.com
>> >>>>> <mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com> <mailto:
>> dmmoff...@gmail.com
>> >>>>> <mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com>>> wrote:
>> >>>>> >> >>
>> >>>>> >> >> The thing driving me nuts right now
>> >>>>> is that literally
>> >>>>> >> everything is a "conspiracy".
>> >>>>> >> >>
>> >>>>> >> >> Sometimes stuff happens, nobody did
>> >>>>> it on purpose, and
>> >>>>> >> nobody has the whole picture of what
>> >>>>> happened until more
>> >>>>> >> time passes. In the interim there's a
>> >>>>> lot of conflicting
>> >>>>> >> information going around. People latch
>> >>>>> onto early bits of
>> >>>>> >> information that turn out to be wrong
>> and
>> >>>>> they won't let go
>> >>>>> >> of them.
>> >>>>> >> >>
>> >>>>> >> >> Coronavirus was created by the
>> >>>>> Chinese to distract press
>> >>>>> >> from Hong Kong
>> >>>>> >> >>
>> >>>>> >> >> Coronavirus was created by the USA
>> to
>> >>>>> defeat China in a
>> >>>>> >> trade war
>> >>>>> >> >>
>> >>>>> >> >> Coronavirus was created by Budweiser
>> >>>>> to discredit
>> >>>>> >> Mexican Lager (I mean that one's
>> >>>>> obviously a joke.....right?)
>> >>>>> >> >>
>> >>>>> >> >> Coronavirus will kill us all and we
>> >>>>> must all stock our
>> >>>>> >> survival bunkers.
>> >>>>> >> >>
>> >>>>> >> >> China is hiding all the information
>> >>>>> about Coronavirus.
>> >>>>> >> Really? Or maybe they just don't have a
>> >>>>> live real-time
>> >>>>> >> omniscient feed of all information so
>> >>>>> they're reporting what
>> >>>>> >> they think is true at the time it's
>> said,
>> >>>>> or maybe rumors on
>> >>>>> >> Facebook aren't all true.
>> >>>>> >> >>
>> >>>>> >> >> See Hanlon's Razor and Occam's
>> Razor.
>> >>>>> >> >>
>> >>>>> >> >>
>> >>>>> >> >>
>> >>>>> >> >>> On 2/10/2020 11:03 AM, Bill Prince
>> >>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>> >> >>> Starting a new thread to make this
>> >>>>> discussion off topic.
>> >>>>> >> >>>
>> >>>>> >> >>> I had my flu shot BTW. No fever
>> here.
>> >>>>> >> >>>
>> >>>>> >> >>> Still zero reported deaths in the
>> >>>>> US, and only about a
>> >>>>> >> dozen actual infections. I am still
>> >>>>> thinking this is not a
>> >>>>> >> big deal. Novel Coronavirus appears to
>> be
>> >>>>> more infectious
>> >>>>> >> than SARS, but not particularly deadly.
>> >>>>> >> >>>
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