Maybe. Heart Attacks can also be caused by pneumonia which puts an increasingly strain on the circulatory system trying to get oxygen around the system.
> On Feb 17, 2020, at 6:45 PM, Robert Andrews <i...@avantwireless.com> wrote: > > The pathology that I had seen talked about it causing heart damage actually. > The second infection triggers fatal heart reactions ( not an attack ) from > the by products introduced in the first infection. > >> On 02/17/2020 03:06 PM, Matt Hoppes wrote: >> I have seen that as well... suspecting that the lungs get damaged the first >> time and then it's all over the second time. >> I'm not sure what you do about that? >> This could explain *tin foil hat* why China is going so crazy with this. >> Suppose for a moment that the virus was out in October or so, and a first >> wave went around. IF this was a manufactured virus and China knows what it >> does, then when it started going around the second time they knew what the >> outcome would be if it wasn't stopped. >>> On 2/17/20 6:02 PM, Robert wrote: >>> Haven't asked since last time, I'll text... Kinda figured with another 40 >>> coming stateside from the cruise ship the gig is up... There is >>> speculation that immunity is not a given after getting corona-fu and the >>> second time you get it is what is causing the deaths... That would be very >>> bad. >>> >>>> On 2/17/20 1:22 PM, Steve Jones wrote: >>>> whats the canary status? >>>> >>>> On Tue, Feb 11, 2020 at 11:28 PM Robert <i...@avantwireless.com >>>> <mailto:i...@avantwireless.com>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Seems to be getting better, but we are standing by. Other cases ( >>>> the couple who were transferred to SF Med center for example ) >>>> they were getting better and then abruptly took a turn much for >>>> the worse. But we have our fingers crossed for him. >>>> >>>>> On 2/11/20 6:59 PM, Steve Jones wrote: >>>>> Who was it that had the pilot canary? What is their status >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Feb 11, 2020, 12:33 AM Timothy Steele >>>>> <timothy.pct...@gmail.com <mailto:timothy.pct...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Spread through the air is fake news >>>>> >>>>> You need a projectile to hit you or touch the projectile >>>>> >>>>> If you have good hygiene and sanitize your hands often you >>>>> should be okay >>>>> >>>>> They are doing research if it can spread by feces but are not >>>>> sure >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> There is a 14 day incubation process so they are checking you >>>>> temp but also keeping an eye on you if you are coughing or >>>>> spiting or showing any other symptoms >>>>> >>>>> For a virus to spread you normally need to have at least a >>>>> slight fever no one knows if that is fake news from China or not >>>>> >>>>> Because it's so hot here if you had a slight fever you would >>>>> never notice it unless someone told you >>>>> >>>>> I think people saying you can get it through the air came >>>>> from a nurse got infected through her eyes when she was >>>>> wearing a mask >>>>> >>>>> But she was hit by a projectile by someone infected directly >>>>> >>>>> It was not just in the air >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Feb 11, 2020, 1:22 PM Robert <i...@avantwireless.com >>>>> <mailto:i...@avantwireless.com>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Anti-vaxers in CN pretty much are a non-issue.. >>>>> >>>>> On 2/10/20 7:36 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: >>>>> > China is actually doing a better job against measles >>>>> than the United States. We have become complacent. >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> https://www.forbes.com/sites/leahrosenbaum/2019/12/27/how-china-is-winning-the-war-against-measles >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > -----Original Message----- >>>>> > From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com >>>>> <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> On Behalf Of Matt Hoppes >>>>> > Sent: Monday, February 10, 2020 9:13 PM >>>>> > To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com >>>>> <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>; Timothy Steele >>>>> <timothy.pct...@gmail.com <mailto:timothy.pct...@gmail.com>> >>>>> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT stock) >>>>> > >>>>> > Hi Timothy! >>>>> > >>>>> > I keep hearing about this happening (temperature >>>>> taking). Since the >>>>> > person can be contagious but a-symptomatic for up to 14 >>>>> days before symptoms occur, I keep wondering what exactly >>>>> this is doing other than stopping the folks who are most >>>>> seriously sick. >>>>> > >>>>> > Is this really just another flu strain though? It's a >>>>> corona virus, but so is the common cold -- that doesn't >>>>> mean they are all the flu. >>>>> > >>>>> > Now I hear this thing can be spread through the air >>>>> (not just droplets), which means the spread distance from >>>>> an infected person is much greater than the common cold/flu. >>>>> > >>>>> > This is certainly some of the better news I've heard >>>>> lately. >>>>> > >>>>> > On 2/10/20 9:55 PM, Timothy Steele wrote: >>>>> >> I'm living in asia right now (philippines) >>>>> >> >>>>> >> they are going to extremes to contain the virus no you >>>>> can't believe >>>>> >> what china is saying but I do believe what I'm seeing >>>>> >> >>>>> >> we just took a vacation to cebu for our anniversary >>>>> >> >>>>> >> when you go to the airport they check your temperature >>>>> even for >>>>> >> domestic before you get to the terminal and check >>>>> again before you get >>>>> >> on the flight >>>>> >> >>>>> >> resorts and hotels have to check your temperature >>>>> before they let you >>>>> >> walk in even if just to eat inside >>>>> >> >>>>> >> if you want to go into a bigger crowded areas like >>>>> whale watching you >>>>> >> have to get all you vitals checked and get stamped >>>>> that you don't have >>>>> >> the virus >>>>> >> >>>>> >> in bohol nurses are getting infected >>>>> >> >>>>> >> U.S citizens in china post on social media of police >>>>> installing metal >>>>> >> bars on doors of anyone's home that refuse to >>>>> quarantine at the >>>>> >> hospital >>>>> >> >>>>> >> as I'm a foreigner I'm not allowed to fly in or out >>>>> any part of china >>>>> >> hong kong or taiwan until the virus travel ban is over >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> I don't mean to scare anyone just sharing truths I'm >>>>> not that scared >>>>> >> of the virus as its just a new strain of the flu and >>>>> I'm still young >>>>> >> >>>>> >> if I was older I would be scared as a flu shot will >>>>> not help you with >>>>> >> this yet and the is a mask shortage so your own doctor >>>>> or nurse and >>>>> >> infect you >>>>> >> >>>>> >> in the U.S though there are so few that have it and >>>>> hospital resources >>>>> >> are so high there is nothing to really worry about there >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> but in asia where good hospitals are hard to find most >>>>> houses don't >>>>> >> have proper showers nurses are out of masks its >>>>> standard for kids to >>>>> >> live with grandparents that can easily get sick and >>>>> the flu is not >>>>> >> common here as its always hot so the immune system is >>>>> not really ready >>>>> >> for it >>>>> >> >>>>> >> it is a very scary virus in asia but I don't see it >>>>> being much of an >>>>> >> issue in the U.S >>>>> >> >>>>> >> On Tue, Feb 11, 2020 at 10:32 AM Mathew Howard >>>>> <mhoward...@gmail.com <mailto:mhoward...@gmail.com> >>>>> >> <mailto:mhoward...@gmail.com >>>>> <mailto:mhoward...@gmail.com>>> wrote: >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Oh, that's probably just a delicious snack! Kind >>>>> of like beef jerky, >>>>> >> only... different. >>>>> >> >>>>> >> On Mon, Feb 10, 2020, 7:22 PM Ken Hohhof >>>>> <af...@kwisp.com <mailto:af...@kwisp.com> >>>>> >> <mailto:af...@kwisp.com >>>>> <mailto:af...@kwisp.com>>> wrote: >>>>> >> >>>>> >> That looks like an actual product they bought >>>>> in China, as >>>>> >> opposed to what I expected from the >>>>> headline. Still >>>>> >> creepy.____ >>>>> >> >>>>> >> __ __ >>>>> >> >>>>> >> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com >>>>> <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> >>>>> >> <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com >>>>> <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>>> *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones >>>>> >> *Sent:* Monday, February 10, 2020 7:03 PM >>>>> >> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group >>>>> <af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com> >>>>> >> <mailto:af@af.afmug.com >>>>> <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>> >>>>> >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was >>>>> UBNT stock)____ >>>>> >> >>>>> >> __ __ >>>>> >> >>>>> >> This is concerning >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >>>>> https://breaking911.com/cbp-officers-at-va-airport-intercept-dead-bird >>>>> >> s-in-passenger-baggage-from-china/____ >>>>> >> >>>>> >> __ __ >>>>> >> >>>>> >> On Mon, Feb 10, 2020, 1:00 PM Shayne Lebrun >>>>> >> <sleb...@corebroadband.ca >>>>> <mailto:sleb...@corebroadband.ca> >>>>> <mailto:sleb...@corebroadband.ca >>>>> <mailto:sleb...@corebroadband.ca>>> >>>>> >> wrote:____ >>>>> >> >>>>> >> A 'cynic' is what an optimist calls a >>>>> realist. >>>>> >> >>>>> >> -----Original Message----- >>>>> >> From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com >>>>> <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> >>>>> >> <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com >>>>> <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>>] On Behalf Of Adam Moffett >>>>> >> Sent: Monday, February 10, 2020 1:33 PM >>>>> >> To: af@af.afmug.com >>>>> <mailto:af@af.afmug.com> <mailto:af@af.afmug.com >>>>> <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>> >>>>> >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was >>>>> UBNT stock) >>>>> >> >>>>> >> I used to think I was a cynic. Some >>>>> people are an order of >>>>> >> magnitude >>>>> >> more cynical than me. >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> On 2/10/2020 12:59 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: >>>>> >> > I am naturally an optimist and not a >>>>> cynic. So I >>>>> >> essentially ignore all that stuff. Life >>>>> is too short. >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > Sent from my iPhone >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> >> On Feb 10, 2020, at 9:26 AM, Adam Moffett >>>>> >> <dmmoff...@gmail.com >>>>> <mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com> <mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com >>>>> <mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com>>> wrote: >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> The thing driving me nuts right now >>>>> is that literally >>>>> >> everything is a "conspiracy". >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> Sometimes stuff happens, nobody did >>>>> it on purpose, and >>>>> >> nobody has the whole picture of what >>>>> happened until more >>>>> >> time passes. In the interim there's a >>>>> lot of conflicting >>>>> >> information going around. People latch >>>>> onto early bits of >>>>> >> information that turn out to be wrong and >>>>> they won't let go >>>>> >> of them. >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> Coronavirus was created by the >>>>> Chinese to distract press >>>>> >> from Hong Kong >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> Coronavirus was created by the USA to >>>>> defeat China in a >>>>> >> trade war >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> Coronavirus was created by Budweiser >>>>> to discredit >>>>> >> Mexican Lager (I mean that one's >>>>> obviously a joke.....right?) >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> Coronavirus will kill us all and we >>>>> must all stock our >>>>> >> survival bunkers. >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> China is hiding all the information >>>>> about Coronavirus. >>>>> >> Really? Or maybe they just don't have a >>>>> live real-time >>>>> >> omniscient feed of all information so >>>>> they're reporting what >>>>> >> they think is true at the time it's said, >>>>> or maybe rumors on >>>>> >> Facebook aren't all true. >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> See Hanlon's Razor and Occam's Razor. >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >>> On 2/10/2020 11:03 AM, Bill Prince >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >> >>> Starting a new thread to make this >>>>> discussion off topic. >>>>> >> >>> >>>>> >> >>> I had my flu shot BTW. No fever here. >>>>> >> >>> >>>>> >> >>> Still zero reported deaths in the >>>>> US, and only about a >>>>> >> dozen actual infections. I am still >>>>> thinking this is not a >>>>> >> big deal. 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