whats the canary status?

On Tue, Feb 11, 2020 at 11:28 PM Robert <i...@avantwireless.com> wrote:

> Seems to be getting better, but we are standing by. Other cases ( the
> couple who were transferred to SF Med center for example ) they were
> getting better and then abruptly took a turn much for the worse.   But we
> have our fingers crossed for him.
>
> On 2/11/20 6:59 PM, Steve Jones wrote:
>
> Who was it that had the pilot canary? What is their status
>
> On Tue, Feb 11, 2020, 12:33 AM Timothy Steele <timothy.pct...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Spread through the air is fake news
>>
>> You need a projectile to hit you or touch the projectile
>>
>> If you have good hygiene and  sanitize  your hands often you should be
>> okay
>>
>> They are doing research if it can spread by feces but are not sure
>>
>>
>> There is a 14 day incubation process so they are checking you temp but
>> also keeping an eye on you if you are coughing or spiting or showing any
>> other symptoms
>>
>> For a virus to spread you normally need to have at least a slight fever
>> no one knows if that is fake news from China or not
>>
>> Because it's so hot here if you had a slight fever you would never notice
>> it unless someone told you
>>
>> I think people saying you can get it through the air came from a nurse
>> got infected through her eyes when she was wearing a mask
>>
>>  But she was hit by a projectile by someone infected directly
>>
>> It was not just in the air
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 11, 2020, 1:22 PM Robert <i...@avantwireless.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Anti-vaxers in CN pretty much are a non-issue..
>>>
>>> On 2/10/20 7:36 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
>>> > China is actually doing a better job against measles than the United
>>> States.  We have become complacent.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> https://www.forbes.com/sites/leahrosenbaum/2019/12/27/how-china-is-winning-the-war-against-measles
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > -----Original Message-----
>>> > From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Matt Hoppes
>>> > Sent: Monday, February 10, 2020 9:13 PM
>>> > To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>; Timothy
>>> Steele <timothy.pct...@gmail.com>
>>> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT stock)
>>> >
>>> > Hi Timothy!
>>> >
>>> > I keep hearing about this happening (temperature taking).   Since the
>>> > person can be contagious but a-symptomatic for up to 14 days before
>>> symptoms occur, I keep wondering what exactly this is doing other than
>>> stopping the folks who are most seriously sick.
>>> >
>>> > Is this really just another flu strain though?  It's a corona virus,
>>> but so is the common cold -- that doesn't mean they are all the flu.
>>> >
>>> > Now I hear this thing can be spread through the air (not just
>>> droplets), which means the spread distance from an infected person is much
>>> greater than the common cold/flu.
>>> >
>>> > This is certainly some of the better news I've heard lately.
>>> >
>>> > On 2/10/20 9:55 PM, Timothy Steele wrote:
>>> >> I'm living in asia right now (philippines)
>>> >>
>>> >> they are going to extremes to contain the virus no you can't believe
>>> >> what china is saying but I do believe what I'm seeing
>>> >>
>>> >> we just took a vacation to cebu for our anniversary
>>> >>
>>> >> when you go to the airport they check your temperature even for
>>> >> domestic before you get to the terminal and check again before you get
>>> >> on the flight
>>> >>
>>> >> resorts and hotels have to check your temperature before they let you
>>> >> walk in even if just to eat inside
>>> >>
>>> >> if you want to go into a bigger crowded areas  like whale watching you
>>> >> have to get all you vitals checked and get stamped that you don't have
>>> >> the virus
>>> >>
>>> >> in bohol nurses are getting infected
>>> >>
>>> >> U.S citizens in china post on social media of police installing metal
>>> >> bars on doors of anyone's home that refuse to quarantine at the
>>> >> hospital
>>> >>
>>> >> as I'm a foreigner I'm not allowed to fly in or out any part of china
>>> >> hong kong or taiwan until the virus travel ban is over
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> I don't mean to scare anyone just sharing truths I'm not that scared
>>> >> of the virus as its just a new strain of the flu and I'm still young
>>> >>
>>> >> if I was older I would be scared as a flu shot will not help you with
>>> >> this yet and the is a mask shortage so your own doctor or nurse and
>>> >> infect you
>>> >>
>>> >> in the U.S though there are so few that have it and hospital resources
>>> >> are so high there is nothing to really worry about there
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> but in asia where good hospitals are hard to find most houses don't
>>> >> have proper showers nurses are out of masks its standard for kids to
>>> >> live with grandparents that can easily get sick and the flu is not
>>> >> common here as its always hot so the immune system is not really ready
>>> >> for it
>>> >>
>>> >> it is a very scary virus in asia but I don't see it being much of an
>>> >> issue in the U.S
>>> >>
>>> >> On Tue, Feb 11, 2020 at 10:32 AM Mathew Howard <mhoward...@gmail.com
>>> >> <mailto:mhoward...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>      Oh, that's probably just a delicious snack! Kind of like beef
>>> jerky,
>>> >>      only... different.
>>> >>
>>> >>      On Mon, Feb 10, 2020, 7:22 PM Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com
>>> >>      <mailto:af...@kwisp.com>> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>          That looks like an actual product they bought in China, as
>>> >>          opposed to what I expected from the headline.  Still
>>> >> creepy.____
>>> >>
>>> >>          __ __
>>> >>
>>> >>          *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com
>>> >>          <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones
>>> >>          *Sent:* Monday, February 10, 2020 7:03 PM
>>> >>          *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com
>>> >>          <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
>>> >>          *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT stock)____
>>> >>
>>> >>          __ __
>>> >>
>>> >>          This is concerning
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> https://breaking911.com/cbp-officers-at-va-airport-intercept-dead-bird
>>> >> s-in-passenger-baggage-from-china/____
>>> >>
>>> >>          __ __
>>> >>
>>> >>          On Mon, Feb 10, 2020, 1:00 PM Shayne Lebrun
>>> >>          <sleb...@corebroadband.ca <mailto:sleb...@corebroadband.ca>>
>>> >>          wrote:____
>>> >>
>>> >>              A 'cynic' is what an optimist calls a realist.
>>> >>
>>> >>              -----Original Message-----
>>> >>              From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com
>>> >>              <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>] On Behalf Of Adam
>>> Moffett
>>> >>              Sent: Monday, February 10, 2020 1:33 PM
>>> >>              To: af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>
>>> >>              Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT stock)
>>> >>
>>> >>              I used to think I was a cynic.  Some people are an order
>>> of
>>> >>              magnitude
>>> >>              more cynical than me.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>              On 2/10/2020 12:59 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>>> >>               > I am naturally an optimist and not a cynic.  So I
>>> >>              essentially ignore all that stuff.  Life is too short.
>>> >>               >
>>> >>               > Sent from my iPhone
>>> >>               >
>>> >>               >> On Feb 10, 2020, at 9:26 AM, Adam Moffett
>>> >>              <dmmoff...@gmail.com <mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com>>
>>> wrote:
>>> >>               >>
>>> >>               >> The thing driving me nuts right now is that
>>> literally
>>> >>              everything is a "conspiracy".
>>> >>               >>
>>> >>               >> Sometimes stuff happens, nobody did it on purpose,
>>> and
>>> >>              nobody has the whole picture of what happened until more
>>> >>              time passes.  In the interim there's a lot of conflicting
>>> >>              information going around. People latch onto early bits of
>>> >>              information that turn out to be wrong and they won't let
>>> go
>>> >>              of them.
>>> >>               >>
>>> >>               >> Coronavirus was created by the Chinese to distract
>>> press
>>> >>              from Hong Kong
>>> >>               >>
>>> >>               >> Coronavirus was created by the USA to defeat China
>>> in a
>>> >>              trade war
>>> >>               >>
>>> >>               >> Coronavirus was created by Budweiser to discredit
>>> >>              Mexican Lager (I mean that one's obviously a
>>> joke.....right?)
>>> >>               >>
>>> >>               >> Coronavirus will kill us all and we must all stock
>>> our
>>> >>              survival bunkers.
>>> >>               >>
>>> >>               >> China is hiding all the information about
>>> Coronavirus.
>>> >>              Really? Or maybe they just don't have a live real-time
>>> >>              omniscient feed of all information so they're reporting
>>> what
>>> >>              they think is true at the time it's said, or maybe
>>> rumors on
>>> >>              Facebook aren't all true.
>>> >>               >>
>>> >>               >> See Hanlon's Razor and Occam's Razor.
>>> >>               >>
>>> >>               >>
>>> >>               >>
>>> >>               >>> On 2/10/2020 11:03 AM, Bill Prince wrote:
>>> >>               >>> Starting a new thread to make this discussion off
>>> topic.
>>> >>               >>>
>>> >>               >>> I had my flu shot BTW. No fever here.
>>> >>               >>>
>>> >>               >>> Still zero reported deaths in the US, and only
>>> about a
>>> >>              dozen actual infections. I am still thinking this is not
>>> a
>>> >>              big deal. Novel Coronavirus appears to be more infectious
>>> >>              than SARS, but not particularly deadly.
>>> >>               >>>
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