That would have to be a high dollar thing to keep the riff raff out. Stuff like nanog is probably one of the best resources for contacts. I lurk there and archive to a folder. When I need a contact, a search of that folder yields a contact result quite often
On Fri, Dec 27, 2019, 10:29 AM Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote: > Sounds like you are looking for a network admin concierge service. > > Actually, I've always wondered why it's the sender's problem when a > recipient defers or blocks email. > > Some recipient mail systems have an informative SMTP message that tells > you how to get unblocked or a less helpful "stop spamming". If they don't > do that, and don't have a FAQ telling admins of other mail systems how to > request unblocking, the answer is more along the lines of they don't want > your email or they have automated the process and don't care that your mail > is getting blocked. Some mail admins see all these available IP block > lists and think how wonderful, I can enable all of them and my users will > be thrilled that I'm blocking all these spammers. Rather than implementing > an actually useful Bayesian system that scans the headers and body of the > email. If they don't have an SMTP message or FAQ, the only way to > influence them is to force their users to complain and get them to change > their ways, rather than for you to own the problem caused by their > decisions. I tell blocked senders to ask the recipient for a different > email address like a Gmail address. > > Sometimes deferrals are due to server overloading, sometimes it's not > deferred it's blocked, sometimes it's due to greylisting. I know some > people here will argue with me, but I hate greylisting. It's like some kid > reading an RFC and discovering a trick, the sending system is required to > retry a deferral within a certain period from the same IP address but > spammers won't, so you can use this trick to weed out spam. Well, no you > can't assume that. RFCs are requests for comments, not laws. Greylisting > will permanently block a certain amount of legitimate mail, and will > potentiall delay delivery of all mail. People expect to get emails right > away, not after 15 minutes or an hour. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Adam Moffett > Sent: Friday, December 27, 2019 10:02 AM > To: af@af.afmug.com > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: New Business Idea > > I didn't imagine anything so formal as that. More like, when there's an > issue where it's clear that it needs a NOC engineer or sysadmin then maybe > a consultant with all the right contacts can skip the ticket queue and get > it handled immediately. The consultant would review the situation to > prevent the back channel from being abused. > > > On 12/27/2019 10:14 AM, Matt Hoppes wrote: > > You’re requesting the GSMA. Be careful what you ask for. > > > > Very expensive. > > > >> On Dec 27, 2019, at 10:11 AM, Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >> As I'm trying to track down an email admin contact at Charter so I can > find out why they're deferring someone's email it occurred to me: > >> > >> If someone made a business out of having access to all the right people > to resolve interop issues quickly then that might be something worth paying > for. > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> AF mailing list > >> AF@af.afmug.com > >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >
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