....then again the circuit will open once the ultracap melts whatever is shorting it.  Maybe every object is a fuse in that case.
Just talking out of my rear, cuz I don't really know.

On 3/5/2019 10:17 AM, Adam Moffett wrote:
Ultracaps sound great because you can put charge in them super fast.
You can also discharge them super fast.  I don't know what a short on a 100kwh equivalent capacitor would look like.  Probably looks like a bomb.


On 3/5/2019 10:11 AM, Mark Radabaugh wrote:
Perhaps some type of supercap instead of a battery?    That’s about the only way I could see truly fast charging time since you are not using a chemical reaction, just storing electrons.

https://cleantechnica.com/2018/02/27/supercapacitor-research-promises-10-minute-charging-times-200-mile-range/

Safety should be interesting.  That’s a hell of a lot of energy density with very little to rate limit converting it back to heat - talk about the potential for a really big boom.

Mark

On Mar 5, 2019, at 9:49 AM, Forrest Christian (List Account) <li...@packetflux.com <mailto:li...@packetflux.com>> wrote:

A while back I read that these new stations would have local storage of some sort. That would limit the short term grid impact.

On Mon, Mar 4, 2019, 5:15 PM Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com <mailto:part15...@gmail.com>> wrote:

    They announced it today as the Supercharger V3. Capable of up to
    350KW, but would "typically" run in the 200KW range (give or
    take). To take advantage of the higher charge rates, the vehicle
    battery packs will need to be enhanced to allow them to take
    that amount of power.

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    On Mon, Mar 4, 2019 at 4:01 PM Sterling Jacobson
    <sterl...@avative.net <mailto:sterl...@avative.net>> wrote:

        Again, I think they meant about 5 hours to charge, not just
        under four minutes, lol!

        *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com
        <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> *On Behalf Of * Bill Prince
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        I thought I read that Tesla announced a new "super" super
        charger that could do 350KW.


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        On Mon, Mar 4, 2019 at 2:28 PM Nate Burke
        <n...@blastcomm.com <mailto:n...@blastcomm.com>> wrote:

            Isn't that the kind of electric service you have running
            to your house? Didn't I see the latest Tesla chargers
            are 200-250kw.

            On 3/4/2019 4:20 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com
            <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

                Piech Mark Zero

                Claims 311 mile range.  At 3.11 miles per kW that
                would be a 100 kWh battery.  OK, within the realm of
                posibilities.

                4:40 minutes to 80% battery capacity.

                So 280 seconds or .077 hours to dump 83 kWh into the
                battery.

                83/.077=1067 kW

                So you have to have 1 Megawatt power source to charge?

                2223 amps of 480 service.

                I am doubting this.

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