Do people have a preferred place to start from? I'm inclined to something like this: g...@github.com:rminnich/nix-os.git
grab that, cd nix/sys/src/nix/k10 mk and see how it goes. We need a shared place to record our experiences -- suggestions? I think our goal this week should be that we figure out who's working on this; goal for end of next week is that everyone working on it at least try to get that repo and do the mk and see if fail ;-) Ori recently fixed 9front git so it can pull from github -- it was a github bug ... On Sun, Jan 5, 2025 at 7:57 PM Christopher Nielsen <cniel...@pobox.com> wrote: > > I'm interested. > > Not 100% sure how much work I'll be able to do, but like you said, pace > yourself and be consistent. :-) > > Cheers, > Chris > > On Sun, Jan 5, 2025, 08:39 Ron Minnich <rminn...@p9f.org> wrote: >> >> No need for money yet! >> >> Let's get this party started. I have queries in to ampere as to how we >> can set up a simulator. However, if someone wants to take a first >> step, take that 2011 code, bring it to your plan 9 system, and see if >> it builds. >> >> Again, the key here is a sustained effort. You don't have to do a lot >> each week, but you don't want to start and then drop it. So it needs >> to NOT become all consuming. It's all about pacing yourself. Anybody >> who's ever spent a few weeks digging ditches can tell you -- set up a >> work effort you can sustain. Same thing here. >> >> So, how about we figure out who here is interested, then start off: >> get the code, see if it builds. Who's in? Don't feel out of your >> depth: if you can type mk, you're ready to start. Don't assume it's a >> slog through code: take time to alternate looking at code, and reading >> docs. Do learn how to use something like qemu -- it's a real >> timesaver, since you can debug the kernel interactively. >> >> Don't kill yourself if you hit a wall about some code -- bring it >> here, and ask questions. That's why we're here. >> >> So, Step 1: anyone? anyone? >> >> Thanks >> >> Ron >> >> On Sun, Jan 5, 2025 at 7:22 AM Daniel Maslowski via 9fans >> <9fans@9fans.net> wrote: >> > >> > There have been other ideas in similar directions over the years. >> > E.g. >> > https://www.researchgate.net/publication/342759611_SCE-Comm_A_Real-Time_Inter-Core_Communication_Framework_for_Strictly_Partitioned_Multi-core_Processors >> > about the concepts of ACs and CCs (communication cores). >> > >> > >> > On Sun, 5 Jan 2025, 01:49 Charles Forsyth, <charles.fors...@gmail.com> >> > wrote: >> >> >> >> i think brazil experimented with networking outside the kernel but it was >> >> pushed back in >> >> >> >> On Sun, 5 Jan 2025 at 00:24, Thaddeus Woskowiak <tswoskow...@gmail.com> >> >> wrote: >> >>> >> >>> On Sat, Jan 4, 2025 at 1:03 PM Bakul Shah via 9fans <9fans@9fans.net> >> >>> wrote: >> >>> > >> >>> > On Jan 4, 2025, at 9:35 AM, Stuart Morrow <morrow.stu...@gmail.com> >> >>> > wrote: >> >>> > >> This has been a very interesting discussion, thanks all. My offer >> >>> > >> remains: if anyone wants to revive NIX, I am happy to help. >> >>> > > >> >>> > > Am I the only one who sees that the Fastcall stuff would be good for >> >>> > > bringing some devices out of the kernel (that are devs only for >> >>> > > performance reasons)? >> >>> > > >> >>> > > And then, closer to what Fastcall was actually for (fossil and >> >>> > > venti>disk), you also have ??fs>nusb/disk>disk, which could always do >> >>> > > with a speedup. >> >>> > >> >>> > I've been meaning to ask... What is the typical *overhead* of a 9p >> >>> > call to a user level driver compared to a kernel based driver? >> >>> >> >>> From what I know the only performance issue for 'user-space <-> >> >>> kernel-space' 9P are context switches. IP is in-kernel to eliminate >> >>> context switches for ether(3) <-> ip(3). >> > >> > 9fans / 9fans / see discussions + participants + delivery options Permalink > > 9fans / 9fans / see discussions + participants + delivery options Permalink ------------------------------------------ 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/T7692a612f26c8ec5-M72745473ff2376aa96d457e9 Delivery options: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/subscription
