On Sun, Jan 05, 2025 at 08:36:17AM -0800, Ron Minnich wrote: > No need for money yet! > > Let's get this party started. I have queries in to ampere as to how we > can set up a simulator. However, if someone wants to take a first > step, take that 2011 code, bring it to your plan 9 system, and see if > it builds. > > Again, the key here is a sustained effort. You don't have to do a lot > each week, but you don't want to start and then drop it. So it needs > to NOT become all consuming. It's all about pacing yourself. Anybody > who's ever spent a few weeks digging ditches can tell you -- set up a > work effort you can sustain. Same thing here. > > So, how about we figure out who here is interested, then start off: > get the code, see if it builds. Who's in? Don't feel out of your > depth: if you can type mk, you're ready to start. Don't assume it's a > slog through code: take time to alternate looking at code, and reading > docs. Do learn how to use something like qemu -- it's a real > timesaver, since you can debug the kernel interactively. > > Don't kill yourself if you hit a wall about some code -- bring it > here, and ask questions. That's why we're here. > > So, Step 1: anyone? anyone? >
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