No need for a DeLorean, Eli. This fits perfectly on a CD-ROM. ;-) https://tip9ug.jp/download/Plan_9_4th_Edition.2004.iso
With the right hardware, it still works great. It might not be as forgiving as 9front or 9legacy, but it's still enjoyable to use. The best part is having a clean slate, with no one to bother you about it. If you want features, just add them yourself. When I read comments about other forks, I think, 'Great, I’m glad they exist.' But honestly, after using them and reflecting on my experiences over the years, I’ll stick with what I’m using. There’s something peaceful about running Plan 9 4th Edition on older computers—it's like living quietly in the mountains rather than in a bustling city. After all this hoopla, I've come to realize that after I port something, it's probably not even worth mentioning. - Vic On Mon, Oct 7, 2024, at 11:17, Eli Cohen wrote: > hey everyone! I'm just here to steal the Delorean. I honestly missed it on > the first pass. and I'm not the kind of person who would steal a car. I > resent these wild accusations. thank you for all of these great > contributions! you're all doing excellent work. please remember it has to > all fit on the CD ROM > > On Sun, Oct 6, 2024, 7:10 PM <vester.thac...@fastmail.fm> wrote: > >> @Creaper Host Automations, that’s pretty funny! I appreciate the humor. If >> I were, I'd probably be running a version from 2006 on some very old >> hardware I’m still working with. Honestly, I'd love to put all of this >> drama behind me. It really has become pointless to engage the community at >> this point. >> >> - Vic >> >> On Mon, Oct 7, 2024, at 10:56, Creeper Host Animations wrote: >> > I wonder if Vic is running on Plan9 >> > >> >> On Oct 6, 2024, at 8:43 PM, vester.thac...@fastmail.fm wrote: >> >> >> >> It's understandable to feel frustrated and make mistakes when dealing >> with online harassment. I'm currently experiencing ongoing harassment and >> stalking from certain individuals here. If I knew their real names, I would >> consider taking legal action to address both their online and offline >> behaviors, and possibly inform their employers if that would help resolve >> the issue. It's really that serious. I'm unsure how to navigate this >> situation—it's overwhelming and feels like pure madness, filled with >> projection. >> >> >> >> Engaging with a community becomes incredibly difficult when some >> individuals seem intent on harassing others for their own amusement. >> >> >> >> - Vic >> >> >> >> >> >>> On Mon, Oct 7, 2024, at 09:53, Don A. Bailey wrote: >> >>> This list should just be renamed to schizophreniaposting. >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>>>> On Oct 6, 2024, at 7:24 PM, Noam Preil <n...@pixelhero.dev> wrote: >> >>>> >> >>>> I want to be 100% crystal clear here: vic has consistently dodged >> fault, >> >>>> used LLM-generated spam both on- and off-list, demonstrated an >> inability >> >>>> to distinguish between different people and between different venues, >> >>>> submitted patches that _do not compile_ and actively make code worse, >> >>>> and then accused reviewers of harassment for asking for an >> explanation, >> >>>> alternated between gaslighting people when confronted and dodging >> >>>> questions entirely, moved goalposts, and on and on and on. >> >>>> >> >>>> Literally every post they've sent has had hallmarks of LLM behavior. >> >>>> >> >>>> Vic's claim: >> >>>> >> >>>>> . Unfortunately, instead of constructive feedback, I was asked to >> >>>>> remove the comments explaining my work, only to then be asked to >> >>>>> provide explanations afterward >> >>>> >> >>>> What was actually asked, >> >>>> https://github.com/g-w1/plan9zig/pull/2#issuecomment-2394838562 >> >>>> >> >>>>> Most of these comments are redundant with what the code does. >> >>>>> Before I merge, could you please remove most of these redundant >> comments? >> >>>> >> >>>> After taking a second look, the author noticed more problems, and >> >>>> followed up again: >> >>>> >> >>>> https://github.com/g-w1/plan9zig/pull/2#issuecomment-2394851139 >> >>>> >> >>>>> Hmm, yeah a bunch of this code seems just plain hallucinated. >> >>>>> @vimanuelt can you explain why you made the changes you did? >> >>>> >> >>>> There was not a request to remove explanations and then provide >> >>>> explanations. There was a request to remove _bad comments_, followed >> by >> >>>> the realization that the patch was submitted by a bot. >> >>>> >> >>>> Most tellingly, "vic"'s comment on the PR appears incapable of >> >>>> distinguishing between the PR and this mailing list. >> >>>> >> >>>>> feel free to contact me directly to reduce noise on the mailing list. >> >>>> >> >>>> g-w1 and vic never interacted before that. g-w1 is not on this list. >> >>>> There _was no noise_ on this list as a result of the patches. >> >>>> Interestingly, eople on this list have complained about noise on the >> >>>> list as a result of vic. >> >>>> >> >>>> Moreover, in their follow-up messages to the list, vic has accused >> >>>> people _on the list_ of criticizing the patches, but they did so >> _before >> >>>> anyone said anything here_. >> >>>> >> >>>> The evidence is strong that Vic is, at best, an LLM and, at worst, an >> >>>> asshole, actively attempting to gaslight people about its own >> behaviors >> >>>> and comments, and attempting to guilt others for calling out its toxic >> >>>> actions. >> >>>> >> >>>> In a response to a message asking people to be upfront >> >>>> about LLM usage, it responded as follows: >> >>>> >> >>>>> I have noticed the emergence of LLMs in email clients and >> >>>>> word processors. Additionally, the need to cut and paste >> >>>>> results has been eliminated, making the integration seamless >> >>>>> and LLM usage soon commonplace. >> >>>>> It is easier and more honest to disclose their >> >>>>> use rather than calling out suspected users and diminishing >> >>>>> trust. >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> I'm not wasting more ink on this, but please, please >> >>>> please stop feeding the troll. It's not worth it. >> >>>> >> >>>> - Noam Preil >> >>>> ------------------------------------------ 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/T9d57d40811a8ec5d-M3870c37f720c7450e7174b91 Delivery options: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/subscription
