And the cost, the payment people here often  seek are useful contributions
and well crafted and understandable questions.

On Sat, Aug 3, 2024, 6:33 PM Clout Tolstoy <tolstoycl...@gmail.com> wrote:

> You have to know your target audience a bit, most people here are old
> hats, and not trying to step on any toes, but perhaps often on the
> "spectrum."  Plan 9 is often against the grain of modern trends but gets
> riffed from and not a lot is returned to Plan 9.
>
> But, no the real issue here is discourse with others, where the work
> you've suggested and purposed reminds everyone here of an LLM facilitating
> half the side of the conversation without actually bringing your own
> results from those one sided LLM conversations.  Nobody really cares if you
> us an LLM or not. (Maybe some do, but that's personal) it's about the
> results, not about ideas of what the results could be.
>
> On Sat, Aug 3, 2024, 6:19 PM <kalona.ayeli...@fastmail.us> wrote:
>
>> I'm not a troll; frustrated, perhaps. I just don't understand this
>> culture. I don't think the issue lies with LLMs, but rather with an
>> unwillingness to cooperate unless there's payment involved. I've never
>> encountered an open-source community quite like this. Creating a separate
>> mailing list to avoid answering questions is, to say the least, unusual. I
>> suppose it can be seen as a safe zone for those who prefer not to assist
>> newcomers. To me, it feels elitist.
>>
>> What I've learned is that there's a significant cultural gap for
>> newcomers, with an unspoken social contract and various hidden challenges.
>>
>> I'm simply seeking a friendly Plan 9 group where people genuinely enjoy
>> helping newcomers.
>>
>> I see some people get treated well and others are treated poorly.  If
>> someone asks a simple question, you give the person a pass. If someone asks
>> a hard question, then you treat the person badly. The lesson there is
>> "Don't ask hard questions." That is how I view it. If there are better Plan
>> 9 groups out there, then I'd like to join that group.
>>
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