Thank you for sharing your thoughts. I want to clarify that my intention is not 
to exert control or disrupt, but to foster better collaboration between 
communities.  I understand that there may be concerns about redundancy and 
approaches, which is why I believe a dialogue about our common goals and how 
best to achieve them is crucial.  I do not see much collaboration between 
9legacy and 9front.  From what I gather from this thread, it seems that one 
community wants to lord over another and not be helpful.  At least this is how 
it appears to a hobbyist like me.  It would be nice if things were more cordial 
and helpful. 

I am assuming everyone here is a hobbyist, so I speak as a hobbyist. It’s 
important to recognize that our shared interest in advancing the Plan 9 
community is at the heart of these discussions. I am here not for personal gain 
but to contribute positively. I think we all bring valuable perspectives that, 
when combined, can lead to innovative solutions that benefit everyone involved.

Let’s focus on how we can work together more effectively. I am open to 
suggestions and willing to step back where needed to allow for a more 
collective approach. I believe that through constructive dialogue and a shared 
commitment to our community’s goals, we can overcome misunderstandings and move 
forward together.

I don't mind the ad hominem attacks.  I just hope things improve. I do find it 
ironic that I'm addressing the 9front community about collaboration and 
inclusiveness when I recall those as being two reasons for the inception of 
9front.  

Vic


On Sun, May 12, 2024, at 21:18, pl...@room3420.net wrote:
> The collaboration is already here. You try to create tools that already
> exist. I'd like to pinpoint why you have this unbelievable need for
> control and wonder if you're not just working for Microsoft, Google or
> the guy who stole Freenode and just try to disrupt the plan9 community.

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