I've gone ahead and made a repository[0] for an up to
date fossil* for 9front. I didn't have to do more then
clone the 4e repository, apply the 9legacy patches and
type mk. Took all of 10 minutes. Testing is left as
an exercise for the reader.

* No warranty given or implied.
[0] http://only9fans.com/moody/fossil/HEAD/info.html

On 5/11/24 19:43, o...@eigenstate.org wrote:
> As far as I can tell, 9front doesn't have a problem
> on this side; we just imported the Power64 compilers,
> have working versions of risc64, etc, all pulled in
> from the 9legacy world.
> 
> The work to port usually ranges between negligible
> and trivial.
> 
> As far as I can tell, the only thing preventing 9front
> changes from making their way back to 9legacy is a lack
> of hands to do the work.
> 
> And while I'm happy to lend a hand, help debug, and even
> make trivial changes to enhance portability, I personally
> don't care to spend time porting software to a system I
> don't intend to use.
> 
> tl;dr: you need people doing the work before you can try
> to organize them; the way to get people doing the work is
> to bootstrap it by doing work and showing value.
> 
> Quoth vic.thac...@fastmail.fm:
>> Perhaps adopting this mindset could be beneficial. When developing a 
>> feature, it's worth considering its potential for portability and usefulness 
>> to other communities.
>>
>> Vic
>>
>> On Sun, May 12, 2024, at 07:27, hiro wrote:
>>> just send the code then
>>>
>>> On Sun, May 12, 2024 at 12:22 AM <vic.thac...@fastmail.fm> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Let me explain my intent and elaborate on my point of view.  I started a 
>>>> new thread to enhance the signal-to-noise ratio. It's easy for a thread to 
>>>> become cluttered with multiple issues, so I believe creating separate 
>>>> threads for distinct concerns helps streamline communication and keeps 
>>>> discussions focused.
>>>>
>>>> As a hobbyist, I see we all share a passion for Plan 9 and its 
>>>> development.  Enhancing collaboration between communities would benefit 
>>>> everyone involved, and potentially enhance decorum on 9fans.  I am curious 
>>>> to gauge whether there is any interest in activities that could facilitate 
>>>> positive teamwork, foster stronger connections, and break down barriers 
>>>> between communities.
>>>>
>>>> Fostering discord among communities seems to only perpetuate more discord. 
>>>>  In my mind, seeking to improve collaboration between communities seemed, 
>>>> and still seems, worthwhile.
>>>>
>>>> As a hobbyist, I find myself pondering: What motivates individuals to 
>>>> participate in 9fans if not for a genuine interest in supporting the Plan 
>>>> 9 community?
>>>>
>>>> Vic
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, May 12, 2024, at 01:26, hiro wrote:
>>>>> congrats for teaching the bot to create more email threads with new
>>>>> subjects. just what we need as a community.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, May 10, 2024 at 4:55 PM Lucio De Re <lucio.d...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I guess we're on the same page, right up and including the fist 
>>>>>> fight(s). But I think we are all entitled to be treated more courteously 
>>>>>> in a public forum such as this, including not ascribing malice unless it 
>>>>>> is explicit. Being touchy has plagued this forum just about forever, it 
>>>>>> would be nicer if instead of calling out bad behaviour, it got the 
>>>>>> benefit of the doubt. I accept that I was as guilty of that presumption 
>>>>>> as much as anyone who posted after me.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Lucio.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, May 10, 2024 at 3:39 PM <k...@a-b.xyz> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What I notice - correct me if I am mistaken - is that any comparison 
>>>>>>>> between 9front and 9legacy seems to needle a few members (very few, 
>>>>>>>> there are many names from that community that have not participated, 
>>>>>>>> specifically the ones I know hand have long respectes, ask them) of 
>>>>>>>> the 9front community that seem to take offence unless 9front is 
>>>>>>>> painted in a better light. I guess that's permissible, but please mind 
>>>>>>>> your manners if you choose to go that route, this is 9fans and 9front 
>>>>>>>> I believe has its own discussion groups.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I offer you the perspective that this happens by rule when obviously 
>>>>>>> wrong
>>>>>>> or ridicolous claims or demands about / of 9front are made.
>>>>>>> This is seen to further degrade the already quite degraded perspective
>>>>>>> it has within parts of the 9fans community.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I don't think it is unreasonable for people who have invested a lot of 
>>>>>>> effort
>>>>>>> into 9front and believe it to be something worthwhile to feel the 
>>>>>>> urgency to
>>>>>>> defend it, or at the very least talk about it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I do think a bit more courtesy or less bad faith assumptions could
>>>>>>> be prescribed to certain individuals, and not only on the 9front side.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Anyway, I propose such issues are best solved by a fist fight, therefore
>>>>>>> acknowledging the legacy of dispute resolution methods of our ancestors 
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> fostering a more resilient and vibrant community that thrives on both 
>>>>>>> change
>>>>>>> and tradition.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Lucio De Re
>>>>>> 2 Piet Retief St
>>>>>> Kestell (Eastern Free State)
>>>>>> 9860 South Africa
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ph.: +27 58 653 1433
>>>>>> Cell: +27 83 251 5824
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