> From: Pasi Kärkkäinen [mailto:pa...@iki.fi]
> 
> Other OS's have had problems with the Broadcom NICs aswell..

Yes.  The difference is, when I go to support.dell.com and punch in my
service tag, I can download updated firmware and drivers for RHEL that (at
least supposedly) solve the problem.  I haven't tested it, but the dell
support guy told me it has worked for RHEL users.  There is nothing
available to download for solaris.

Also, the bcom is not the only problem on that server.  After I added-on an
intel network card and disabled the bcom, the weekly crashes stopped, but
now it's ...  I don't know ... once every 3 weeks with a slightly different
mode of failure.  This is yet again, rare enough that the system could very
well pass a certification test, but not rare enough for me to feel
comfortable putting into production as a primary mission critical server.

I really think there are only two ways in the world to engineer a good solid
server:
(a) Smoke your own crack.  Systems engineering teams use the same systems
that are sold to customers.
or
(b) Sell millions of 'em.  So despite whether or not the engineering team
uses them, you're still going to have sufficient mass to dedicate engineers
to the purpose of post-sales bug solving.

I suppose a third way, which has certainly happened in history but not very
applicable to me...  Is to simply charge such ridiculously high prices for
your servers that you can dedicate engineers to post-sales bug solving, even
if you only sold a handful of those systems in the whole world.  Things like
munitions-strength cray and alphaservers etc in the past have sometimes fit
into this category.

I do feel confident assuming that solaris kernel engineers use sun servers
primarily for their server infrastructure.  So I feel safe buying this
configuration.  The only thing there is to gain by buying something else is
lower prices... or maybe some obscure fringe detail that I can't think of.

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