>>>>> "re" == Richard Elling <rich...@nexenta.com> writes:
re> we would very much like to see Oracle continue to produce re> developer distributions which more closely track the source re> changes. I'd rather someone else than Oracle did it. Until someone else is doing the ``building'', whatever that entails all the way from Mercurial to DVD, we will never know if the source we have is complete enough to do a fork if we need to. I realize everyone has in their heads, FORK == BAD. Yes, forks are usually bad, but the *ability to make forks* is good, because it ``decouples the investments our businesses make in OpenSolaris/ZFS from the volatility of Sun and Oracle's business cycle,'' to paraphrase some blog comment. Particularly when you are dealing with datasets so large it might cost tens of thousands to copy them into another format than ZFS, it's important to have a >2 year plan for this instead of being subject to ``I am altering the deal. Pray I don't alter it any further.'' Nexenta being stuck at b134, and secret CVE fixes, does not look good. Though yeah, it looks better than it would if Nexenta didn't exist. IMHO it's important we don't get stuck running Nexenta in the same spot we're now stuck with OpenSolaris: with a bunch of CDDL-protected source that few people know how to use in practice because the build procedure is magical and secret. This is why GPL demands you release ``all build scripts''! One good way to help make sure you've the ability to make a fork, is to get the source from one organization and the binary distribution from another. As long as they're not too collusive, you can relax and rely on one of them to complain to the other. Another way is to use a source-based distribution like Gentoo or BSD, where the distributor includes a deliverable tool that produces bootable DVD's from the revision control system, and ordinary contributors can introspect these tools and find any binary blobs that may exist.
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