On Jul 15, 2010, at 4:48 AM, BM wrote: > On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 10:53 AM, Garrett D'Amore <garr...@nexenta.com> wrote: >> The *code* is probably not going away (even updates to the kernel). >> Even if the community dies, is killed, or commits OGB induced suicide. > > 1. You used correct word: "probably".
The sun will probably rise tomorrow :-) > 2. No community = stale outdated code. But there is a community. What is lacking is that Oracle, in their infinite wisdom, has stopped producing OpenSolaris developer binary releases. Not to be outdone, they've stopped other OS releases as well. Surely, this is a temporary situation. Of the remaining distro builders who offer updated builds based on OpenSolaris code, I'm proud to be a part of the Nexenta team. >> There is another piece I'll add: even if Oracle were to stop releasing >> ZFS or OpenSolaris source code, there are enough of us with a vested >> interest (commercial!) in its future that we would continue to develop >> it outside of Oracle. It won't just go stagnant and die. > > So you're saying "let's fork it". No. What he is saying is that distro builders need to step up to the challenge and release distros. For some reason (good marketing) people seem to think that Linux == Red Hat. Clearly, that is not the case. Please, do not confuse distribution of binaries with distribution of source. >> I believe I can safely say that Nexenta is committed to the continued >> development and enhancement of this code base -- and to doing so in the open. > Yeah, and Nexenta is also committed to backport newest updates from > 140 and younger builds just back to snv_134. So I can imagine that > soon new OS from Nexenta will be called "Super Nexenta Version 134". > :-) Please. The NexentaStor OS 3.0.3 release is b134f. b134g will be next. We do not expect the OpenSolaris community to replace b135 with Nexenta Core 3.0.3. Rather, we would very much like to see Oracle continue to produce developer distributions which more closely track the source changes. NexentaStor has a very focused market. The losers in the Oracle deaf-mute game are the people who want to use OpenSolaris for applications other than a NAS server. > Currently from what I see, I think Nexenta will also die eventually. Indeed. We will all die. And the good news is that someone will pick up the knowledge and evolve. Darwin was right. This is the circle of life. > Because of BTRFS for Linux, Linux's popularity itself and also thanks > to the Oracle's help. BTRFS does not matter until it is a primary file system for a dominant distribution. >From what I can tell, the dominant Linux distribution file system is ext. >That will change some day, but we heard the same story you are replaying about BTRFS from the Reiser file system aficionados and the XFS evangelists. There is absolutely no doubt that Solaris will use ZFS as its primary file system. But there is no internal or external force causing Red Hat to change their primary file system from ext. -- richard _______________________________________________ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
