On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 4:40 PM, zfs ml <zf...@itsbeen.sent.com> wrote:
> On 3/4/10 9:17 AM, Brent Jones wrote: > >> My rep says "Use dedupe at your own risk at this time". >> >> Guess they've been seeing a lot of issues, and regardless if its >> 'supported' or not, he said not to use it. >> > > So its not a feature, its a bug. They should release some official > statement if they are going to have the sales reps saying that. Either it > works or it doesn't and if it doesn't, then all parts of Oracle should be > saying the same thing, not just after they have your money (oh btw, that > dedup thing...). > > As discussed in a couple other threads, if Oracle wants to treat the > fishworks boxes like closed appliances, then it should "just work" and if it > doesn't then it should be treated like a toaster that doesn't work and they > should take it back. They seem to want to sell them with the benefits of > being closed for them - you shouldn't use the command line, etc but then act > like your unique workload/environment is somehow causing them to break when > they break. If they seal the box and put 5 knobs on the outside, don't blame > the customer when they turn all the knobs to 10 and the box doesn't work. > Take the box back, remove the knobs or fix the guts so all the knobs work as > advertised. It seems they kind of rushed the appliance into the market. We've a few 7410s and replication (with zfs send/receive) doesn't work after shares reach ~1TB (broken pipe error). It's frustrating and we can't do anything because every time we type "shell" in the CLI, it freaks us out with a message saying the warranty will be voided if we continue. I bet that we could work around that bug but we're not allowed and the workarounds provided by Sun haven't worked. Regarding dedup, Oracle is very courageous for including it in the 2010.Q1 release if this comes to be true. But I understand the pressure on then. Every other vendor out there is releasing products with deduplication. Personally, I would just wait 2-3 releases before using it in a black box like the 7000s. The hardware on the other hand is incredible in terms of resilience and performance, no doubt. Which makes me think the pretty interface becomes an annoyance sometimes. Let's wait for 2010.Q1 :) -- Giovanni Tirloni sysdroid.com
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