* Rob Terhaar (rob...@robbyt.net) wrote:
> I'm sure this has been discussed in the past. But its very hard to
> understand, or even patch incredibly advanced software such as ZFS
> without a deep understanding of the internals.

It's also very hard for the primary ZFS developers to satisfy everyone's
itch :-)

> It will take quite a while before anyone can start understanding a
> file system which was developed behind closed doors for nearly a
> decade, and then released into opensource land via tarballs "thrown
> over the wall". Only until recently the source has become more
> available to normal humans via projects such as indiana.

I don't think you've got your facts straight.  OpenSolaris was launched
in June 2005.  ZFS was integrated October 31st, 2005 after being in
development (of a sort) from October 31st 2001[1].  It hasn't been
developed behind closed doors for nearly a decade.  Four years at most
and it was available for all to see (in much better form than 'tarballs
thrown over the wall') LONG before Indiana was even a gleam in Ian's
eyes.

> Saying "if you don't like it, patch it" is an ignorant cop-out, and a
> troll response to people's problems with software.

And people seemingly expecting that the ZFS team (or any technology team
working on OpenSolaris) has infinite cycles to solve everyone's itches
is equally ignorant imo.  OpenSolaris (the project) is meant to be a
community project.  As in allowing contributions from entities outside
of sun.com.  So, saying 'patches welcomed' is mostly an appropriate
response (depending on how it's presented) because they are in fact
welcome.  That's sort of how opensource works (at least in my
experience).  If the primary developers aren't 'scratching your itch'
then you (or someone you can get to do the work for you) can fix your
own problems and contribute them back to the community as a whole where
everyone wins.

Cheers,

-- 
Glenn

1 - http://blogs.sun.com/bonwick/entry/zfs_the_last_word_in
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