Rob Terhaar wrote:
I'm sure this has been discussed in the past. But its very hard to
understand, or even patch incredibly advanced software such as ZFS
without a deep understanding of the internals.

It will take quite a while before anyone can start understanding a
file system which was developed behind closed doors for nearly a
decade, and then released into opensource land via tarballs "thrown
over the wall". Only until recently the source has become more
available to normal humans via projects such as indiana.

Saying "if you don't like it, patch it" is an ignorant cop-out, and a
troll response to people's problems with software.
bs. I'm entirely *outside* of Sun and just tired of hearing whining and complaints about features not implemented. So the facts are a bit more clear in case you think I'm ignorant...

#1 The source has been available and modified from those outside sun for I think 3 years??

#2 I fully agree the threshold to contribute is *significantly* high. (I'm working on a project to reduce this)

#3 zfs unlike other things like the build system are extremely well documented. There are books on it, code to read and even instructors (Max Bruning) who can teach you about the internals. My project even organized a free online training for this....

This isn't zfs-haters or zfs-.....

Use it, love it or help out...

documentation, patches to help lower the barrier of entry, irc support, donations, detailed and accurate feedback on needed features and lots of other things welcomed.. maybe there's a more productive way to get what you need implemented?

I think what I'm really getting at is instead of dumping on this list all the problems that need to be fixed and the long drawn out stories.. File a bug report.. put the time in to explore the issue on your own.. I'd bet that if even 5% of the developers using zfs sent a patch of some nature we would avoid this whole thread.

Call me a troll if you like.. I'm still going to lose my tact every once in a while when all I see is whiny/noisy threads for days.. I actually don't mean to single you out.. there just seems to be a lot of negativity lately..


./C

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