>>>>> "tt" == Toby Thain <t...@telegraphics.com.au> writes: >>>>> "j" == JZ <j...@excelsioritsolutions.com> writes:
> Nobody in their right mind is using Gentoo.
tt> a lot of seasoned sysadmins would disagree.
Gentoo makes sense for embedded projects. OpenWRT is arguably
source-based too. but Gentoo is extremely clumsy to my view: I find
USE flags to be a terrible mistake because they hide bugs and make
dependencies no longer automatic. It would be a lot more workable if
I had bootable ZFS snapshots in Gentoo to give rollback protection
when doing security-fix updates.
Also I think they don't do enough (any?) branching for stable
systems---they sort of think they can have ``stable'' and
``experimental'' branches both continually updated, with no tagging,
all the time, which makes all updates equally risky instead of
batching things into major-infrequent and minor-frequent updates. In
that sense I guess it's just like opensolaris.
but yeah, that OTness aside, Sun's deliberately crafting their brand
new CDDL license to be incompatible with the GPL isn't exactly in the
spirit of free software. BSD is also not in the GPL camp, but the
mainstream of BSD has altered their licenses where possible to add GPL
compatibility. The GPL camp moves in the same direction: the GPLv3
added changes to slightly improve license compatibility.
That said I don't really understand why ZFS can't be a Linux kernel
module, since Linus's ``interpretation'' of the GPL has almost reduced
it to LGPL within the kernel. Why his ``interpretation'' should have
such weight when he doesn't hold all the copyrights I've never
understood either, but so far all these big companies distributing
binary modules seem to take it as law. This thread seems to say the
same:
http://groups.google.com/group/zfs-fuse/browse_thread/thread/1219db6af605f792
so, maybe it is not really a license permissiveness issue, so much as
a license preference issue that you cannot convince very many talented
Linux developers to do free work for you unless you give their efforts
the protection of the GPL. The one willing to work without GPL
protection only offers enough free time to do the easier FUSE port. :)
j> I like you open folks, much much more than the L-open folks.
(1) don't confuse the people with the license. In general I get along
better with BSD users, but not their license---I prefer GPL, as
user and developer.
(2) lots of the people here are Sol10 users, of the stable release.
those people are not ``open folks'' at all.
(3) http://www.openbsd.org/papers/opencon06-drivers/mgp00024.html
it's all about the details.
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