On Sep 6, 2007, at 14:48, Nicolas Williams wrote:

>> Exactly the articles point -- rulings have consequences outside of  
>> the
>> original case.  The intent may have been to store logs for web server
>> access (logical and prudent request) but the ruling states that  
>> RAM albeit
>> working memory is no different then other storage and must be kept  
>> for
>> discovery.  This is generalized because (as I understand) the  
>> defense was
>> arguing  "logs are not turned on -- they do not exist" and that  
>> was met
>> with "of course the running program has this information in RAM  
>> and you are
>> disposing of it" ad nauseam.  The only saving grace for the ruling  
>> is that
>> it is not a higher court.
>
> Allowing for technical illiteracy in judges I think the obvious
> interpretation is that discoverable data should be retained and that
> "but it exists only in RAM" is not a defense, and rightly so.

hang on .. let me take it out and give it to you ..

I'm thinking this seems to get into v-chip territory, or otherwise  
providing a means for agencies to track information that might have  
passed through a system .. err, for the safety of our children and  
such :P
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