Very true. But, though Apple champions the font and has included it in the OS 
since 1991, it is peculiarly limited in utility. Though the small-caps issue is 
more-or-less settled, the absence of pre-built fractions and the inability to 
use the font’s sub/super/scripts or numerators/denominators is an ongoing 
source of irritation, at least to me… I can see the glyphs in FontBook, but 
there seems to be no way to use them — at least in TeX. The more irritating as 
it is a beautiful typeface.

SGM

PS. By the way I’d love to be proven wrong about the sub/super/script and 
numerator/denominator issues ;>)

> On Oct 27, 2023, at 5:23 PM, David Barts via XeTeX <xetex@tug.org> wrote:
> 
> Yes, Apple ships a very nice set of fonts standard with MacOS. It’s one of 
> the reasons I’m a Mac user, as one could easily spend hundreds (or maybe low 
> thousands) licensing all those fonts individually. Makes the Apple price 
> premium pay for itself.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Oct 26, 2023, at 04:42, Stephen Moye via XeTeX <xetex@tug.org> wrote:
>> 
>> And a nice surprise: Not many fonts, even those labelled ‘pro’, contain 
>> italic, bold, and bold-italic small caps:
>> 
>> <Screen Shot 2023-10-26 at 7.39.44 AM.png>
>> <hoefler-sc.tex>
>> 
>> 
>>> On Oct 26, 2023, at 7:03 AM, Stephen Moye via XeTeX <xetex@tug.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Ah, and very useful. I have worked out the following as a possible 
>>> approach… and begins to make Hoefler a bit more useful. 
>>> Suggestions/improvements?
>>> 
>>> <Screen Shot 2023-10-26 at 6.59.57 AM.png><hoefler-sc.tex>
>>> 
>>>>> On Oct 25, 2023, at 11:56 PM, David Barts via XeTeX <xetex@tug.org> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> <smcp1.tex>
>>> 
>> 
> 


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